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Californians, what what

Post by Emilie » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:40 am

After my very thorough research (yeah, briefly scanning people's locations) I haven't seen any other CA people...or even west coast people...
pop lives in SF! (Well, at least in my apartment) :roll:
Anyone else in CA/ West coast? Just curious! :)

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Post by Jeezy Creezy » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:28 am

I go there all the time if that's any help? My pop and all his side of the clan live in Glendale and Burbank and nearby areas.
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Post by Emilie » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:40 pm

Jeezy Creezy wrote:I go there all the time if that's any help? My pop and all his side of the clan live in Glendale and Burbank and nearby areas.
Ah, LA...I almost moved there. I have a friend that lives in Burbank...

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Post by soft revolution » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:14 pm

I love California though I admittedly only went there for a few weeks. I did go to Oxnard though, which is now the home of Yay Records which is well weird because I remember thinking "I bet no indiepop happens here" when I went there. It seemed like such an unlikely place for twee.

San Diego was lovely, it had some ace museums in a park.
And by me, I mean, Flexo.

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Post by DefenderOfPants » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:57 pm

i live in Monterey... but i wouldn't really call myself a Californian.

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Post by Emilie » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:11 am

DefenderOfPants wrote:i live in Monterey... but i wouldn't really call myself a Californian.
Well Pants, you're the closest to me yet!

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Post by cuppie » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:46 am

i like california a lot. the left side of my family seems to be slowly setting up a lame people commune in twain harte.

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Post by Jeezy Creezy » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:49 am

I'm spending 5 weeks travelling about California and SW in Novenber so any hints of where to go would be much appreciated. We're already decided on San Fran, LA, Las Vegas and Grand Canyon and want to see some national parks n stuff.
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Post by Emilie » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:08 pm

Jeezy Creezy wrote:I'm spending 5 weeks travelling about California and SW in Novenber so any hints of where to go would be much appreciated. We're already decided on San Fran, LA, Las Vegas and Grand Canyon and want to see some national parks n stuff.
Well, I can give you some tips for SF, if you let me know what kind of stuff you're interested in.

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Post by madcat » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:08 am

Yo! I live in Hollywood. Am considering a trip to SF to see peeps in March.

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Post by this clump of trees » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:13 pm

oh i might be moving to LA in a few months if everything goes according to plan & i decide that it has indeed been a lifelong dream of mine to live in terrible discomfort w/out any means of transportation & seething resentment for my social betters

hows the job market over there these days, particularly for people w/ plenty of spunk & no useful skills?

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Post by madcat » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:49 pm

The industry I work in (film and tv) is doing OK post-strike. Though if SAG strikes later this year, all bets are off again. I don't really know anything about looking for jobs like waiting tables and bartending and such, because those jobs terrify me and my accident-prone ways. But it seems like I see a lot of signs about... Incidentally, the buses and metro aren't bad at all, if you don't have to commute a tremendous distance on them. If you move to a high-density district like Koreatown or Hollywood or Echo Park, and you don't work on the westside or in the valley, you'll be surprised at how quickly you can get around. It still isn't exactly London or Paris (or even San Francisco) as far as transit goes but it's not hell either. Plus, the weather and food are good. Plus plus, I need more friends around here. Do it!

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Post by quaycur » Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:25 am

I'm in Seattle now, but I'm a bit desperate to get back to California. LA, even. How sad to move all over the country (as I have) and realize that you've been programmed to dislike everywhere but flipping Los Angeles. Oh delightful smog, how I miss thee.
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Post by chelseaguitar » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:44 pm

Hello! I live in Richmond, in the East Bay, near Berkeley!

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Post by this clump of trees » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:11 pm

madcat wrote:But it seems like I see a lot of signs about... Incidentally, the buses and metro aren't bad at all, if you don't have to commute a tremendous distance on them. If you move to a high-density district like Koreatown or Hollywood or Echo Park, and you don't work on the westside or in the valley, you'll be surprised at how quickly you can get around. It still isn't exactly London or Paris (or even San Francisco) as far as transit goes but it's not hell either.
no kidding? maybe resettling woouldnt be such a nightmare as i imagine. heres an article i just found in the economist thats sort of encouraging, in terms of concentration & affordability of housing, etc
http://www.economist.com/world/na/displ ... d=10924156" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

edit: hi chelseaguitar

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Post by Emilie » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:38 pm

chelseaguitar wrote:Hello! I live in Richmond, in the East Bay, near Berkeley!
Hi neighbor!

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Post by madcat » Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:00 am

boyfriend wrote: no kidding? maybe resettling woouldnt be such a nightmare as i imagine. heres an article i just found in the economist thats sort of encouraging, in terms of concentration & affordability of housing, etc
http://www.economist.com/world/na/displ ... d=10924156" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
that's an interesting article. The mayor and his Latino-business-progressive coalition are pretty determined to make L.A. more like a real city. Old habits die hard though, and SUV-loving yahoos like Supervisor Yaroslavsky (who helped stop the Wilshire subway from running all the way to the westside and the beach*) die harder. It often feels like there are two LAs--the parts of town that feel like an actual city, and the sprawling, low-slung, car-jammed suburbia that everyone knows, which is much of the westside and valley. Often people in one LA don't know anything about--indeed, are actively afraid of--the other LA. One can hope that more and more Angelenos discover their actual city and get excited about it... maybe $4/gallon gas will help them in that regard...


*this subway extension is now back on track, but won't be done for a decade at least.

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Post by quaycur » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:46 am

madcat wrote:. It often feels like there are two LAs--the parts of town that feel like an actual city, and the sprawling, low-slung, car-jammed suburbia that everyone knows, which is much of the westside and valley. Often people in one LA don't know anything about--indeed, are actively afraid of--the other LA. One can hope that more and more Angelenos discover their actual city and get excited about it... maybe $4/gallon gas will help them in that regard...
There's such a long history of racial tension developing along area lines, gentrification projects and general intracity animosity, I have a hard time thinking those two distinct groups will ever come together. The rabid gentrification of Downtown and resultant "white flight" of the Valleyites is getting worse and worse...or at least it seemed that way when I was living there. I was working in Downtown through a great deal of the gentrification projects that were stripping old buildings and turning them into blazing new studio condos that cost more than a house in some parts of South LA - has that changed? As much as I do love LA, the history of poverty and racial and cultural tension is, I think, too deep to be solved within a single administration or by any attempts to make it seem more like a "real" city.
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Post by madcat » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:02 am

I'm not sure the racial and poverty divide in L.A. will ever go away, nor am I sure it's possible (or even in the job description) to be solved by the mayor either... But these problems are certainly exacerbated (and to a degree enabled by) the car culture, which denies public space while encouraging mutual paranoia and social anomie as people transport themselves from one sphere of private consumption to another. While the administration's motives may not always be pure (the new developments sometimes can be little more than classic gentrification land grabs such as those lofts, which yes, are still happening) the result undermines the architectural basis for a lot of historic social division in the city, whether economic or cultural. I think on balance that's extraordinary, especially given the L.A. I knew as a teenager.

Voters might rebel (especially white voters nervous about all the brown people on the bus speaking Spanish), but they may not have a choice in the matter. There's not much more land to develop within a practical distance to the core economic zones, especially as freeway traffic worsens and fuel prices keep going up up and away. For the dedicated suburbanites it may just be time to put up, shut up or move to Nebraska.

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Post by quaycur » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:27 am

Oh, I totally agree about the massive problems of Southern California car culture. And that's an interesting way to look at the results of the administration's projects - I mostly observed the way some of the changes were affecting outlying communities, like East LA, Montebello and Whittier, where I lived. I was involved with a group fighting some of the harassment of the downtown homeless community for awhile, and I still maintain that that is the biggest problem of any city revitalization or improvement projects - the gentrification that goes hand in hand with transportation and habitation improvements only generates larger problems while also being, basically, fucked up. The city needs to develop a more stable and compassionate plan for managing the population that is being dislocated because of work in the downtown, not just because it might help minimize the complaints of conservative middle-class suburbanites, but because it would assuredly help get progressives more on board with city improvements.

I used to have this argument with my former boss. She was from Oregon, and she'd constantly bitch about all the "damn Mexicans" she had to deal with when she took the Gold line downtown from her cozy little Pasadena home. I kindly recommended that she move back to Oregon if it bothered her so much, but amazingly she was offended by my suggestion.

It's great to know the Wilshire subway is back on track.
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