Amps: the bit the music comes out of

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Re: Amps: the bit the music comes out of

Post by Andy GI » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:18 pm

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I tried out our newest amp yesterday, Hughes and Kettner Statesman Dual EL34.

I appear to be down-sizing my guitar collection, and up-sizing my amp collection.

Marshall 1987 JCM800 4 input, no MV (loudest amp in the world)
Orange Tiny Terror 15w
Epiphone Valve Junior 5w Combo

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Re: Amps: the bit the music comes out of

Post by roundbitsofplastic » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:36 am

This is probably the wrong thread, but I can;t see a better one and I figure there's some cross-ver.

Who wants to tell me about PAs, then?

Suitable for up to 200 capacity venues. What the fuck do we need? What should we pay? what should we look out for? Mics too, I guess.

Any advice greatly appreciated.
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Re: Amps: the bit the music comes out of

Post by carney » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:19 pm

roundbitsofplastic wrote:This is probably the wrong thread, but I can;t see a better one and I figure there's some cross-ver.

Who wants to tell me about PAs, then?

Suitable for up to 200 capacity venues. What the fuck do we need? What should we pay? what should we look out for? Mics too, I guess.

Any advice greatly appreciated.
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Guessing from the "200 capacity" bit you probably need a system of at least 2kW. Without going onto serious detail, it should probably contain 2 standard speakers and a couple of subwoofers. Each pair will need an amplifier (with output totalling at least 2kW, as mentioned before, I reckon). Then you need a mixing desk, and some monitor speakers (powered, or if not then another amplifier is required to power these) and a load of mics, leads and DI boxes. You'll probably need a minimum of 3 vocal mics, plus a kick drum and snare mic, and maybe 3 DI boxes for plugging in bass guitar, keyboards, acoustic guitars, etc. Every mic will probably need a stand too.

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Re: Amps: the bit the music comes out of

Post by roundbitsofplastic » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:24 am

Buying!

Thanks for that stuff. I'll, ummm, meditate on it.
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Re: Amps: the bit the music comes out of

Post by roundbitsofplastic » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:22 am

Hang on, what's the difference between and active and passive PA?

EDIT

google told me the answer. Are there any disadvantages to have an actove PA? seem slike they would be easlier to deal with, logistically speaking.
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Re: Amps: the bit the music comes out of

Post by carney » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:41 pm

I think that, broadly speaking, active speakers are not as good quality as the amplifier is squashed in the same box with the cones. More tricky to fix if it blows up, too. But, they are more convenient, and tend to work out cheaper than buying passive speakers + amp.

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Re: Amps: the bit the music comes out of

Post by roundbitsofplastic » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:35 am

Yeah, I don't think we're too worried about sound quality, we just kinda want what's going on to be a bit louder... I think active is for us, especially as we don't even have a car and will have to rely on taxis.
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Re: Amps: the bit the music comes out of

Post by carney » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:24 am

Then that's the way to go. I have a little PA that I can fit in the back of my hatchback with the seats down, but something bigger for a 200 capacity room might be a bit of a struggle in a taxi.

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Re: Amps: the bit the music comes out of

Post by humblebee » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:14 am

Hey up. I need a VERY SMALL SPEAKER. Can you help?

I've got a new song in my solo set which has a piano-based backing track. I can play this track off my phone or tablet. So if I'm playing plugged in, easy, I can just get the soundperson to run my phone or tablet into the desk. But if I'm playing acoustic, I need something else. It's too quiet with just the phone or tablet. A practice amp is no good, that'll be too big, even the ickle 10w ones - I need something that'll fit into a bag. So I'm thinking one of those little speakers people use to amplify their phones. Anybody got one?

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Re: Amps: the bit the music comes out of

Post by tompony » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:45 am

If you want something in between a phone-speaker and a practice-amp, these tiny Orange amps are good, and pretty affordable! Plus they're ridiculously cute.

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Re: Amps: the bit the music comes out of

Post by tonieee » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:25 pm

I have a bluetooth speaker that I use with my phone (that will also work with a wire) and also a tiny battery operated guitar amp/speaker. Your welcome to use either.

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