The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by northernlight » Sun Feb 06, 2011 17:59

Eardrums Knut wrote:I've always thought of Muse as a Radiohead rip-off, - never thought of them as a band inspired by Smashing Pumpkins, - but you may be right. If you haven't heard the Pains single, it's on Soundcloud for streaming:
http://soundcloud.com/slumberland-recor ... ins-belong
Well, whether it was Radiohead, later-era Smashing Pumpkins or whoever - whichever artist(s) 'inspired' Muse will just have to live with that... Ick!

Going back to the POBPAH, if the Pains are going to at a bit of a grungey feel to the odd song, then maybe they could round out the early-90s feel by adding in a few Shoegazey-style songs to their new album too? Alan Moulder did also produce the likes of Lush, Curve, MBV way back when, if memory serves correctly.

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by indiansummer » Sun Feb 06, 2011 18:08

yeh, i reckon Muse were somewhere inbetween Radiohead pastiche and Queen-apery, although the more i think about it, yeh, i could see how they might have been fans of Smashing Pumpkins

they don't really sound very much alike though

Muse are massively popular AND massively shit but for some reason i never, ever hear any of their songs, so i spend well over 99% of the time having forgotten that they exist at all

Pavement weren't really 'big', i don't think, but they were certainly 'college radio big', circa Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain. they did that lollapalooza thing round then, which presumably helped or was a direct result of said college radio popularity

Smashing Pumpkins certainly became the antithesis of what i imagine most people on here to enjoy, but in the early years there was probably quite a lot of crossover... personally i'm not into a lot of that type of vaguely shoegazey metally rock, but i think the early Pumpkins stuff is fun enough

to summarise:

Pains song = good, sounds a bit like Smashing Pumpkins
Smashing Pumpkins = dead good once upon a time, total dogshit now

hold on, i'm just repeating opinions at length now, aren't i?

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by northernlight » Sun Feb 06, 2011 18:40

Muse are kind of difficult to avoid completely, say, if you are prone to watching any of those festival highlights packages (glasto, t in the park etc).

And even if I"ve heard their songs in any shape or form, I couldn't even name one of them. Their songs are like Teflon - just don't stick - to me they have no hooks, and therefore totally forgettable.

I have a few friends who rave about them - which is baffling, but horses for courses and all that.

Good point about Lollapolooza - it would be fair to say that this put alternative music on the map in the USA. I think that the likes of Shonen Knife, Lush, Cocteau Twins all played this, as well as the Pavements, Pumpkins NIN, etc..

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by Peakoe » Sun Feb 06, 2011 18:43

Belong is lovely. Can't wait for the album(do we have a release date yet?). As for the smashing pumpkins I've never been into them (heard they have a shoe-gazey album that is good). My fav bands from the u.s. are Sonic Youth, Pavement, Yo La Tengo and Dinosaur and I know alot of people that like them are also into the pumpkins but they have just never caught my attention. (random thought: I've never been into Husker du either....) Anyway The Pains never let me down and I've decided The One is their best song yet.......and it's not going to be on the album :(

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by philjunebride » Wed Feb 09, 2011 09:59

I have had to start selling records on E-Bay to try and help towards financing the band going to America this year. Bad news for me, but good news if you are after the ultra rare first POBPAH split single - Kurt Cobain's Cardigan. Mine is on E-Bay (sorry, Kip and Co!).

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pains-Being-Pure- ... 500wt_1156

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by StKip » Sat Feb 12, 2011 07:24

philjunebride wrote:I have had to start selling records on E-Bay to try and help towards financing the band going to America this year. Bad news for me, but good news if you are after the ultra rare first POBPAH split single - Kurt Cobain's Cardigan. Mine is on E-Bay (sorry, Kip and Co!).

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pains-Being-Pure- ... 500wt_1156
Ha, Phil you can do no wrong. And it's for a greater good anyway, no worries on our end. Just be sure to buy Marianthi a drink next time you see her, as she sold all of them for a lot less a few years ago.

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by Sasha » Sat Feb 12, 2011 19:58

Great, another mean debate based on an innocent little comment I made. Why do I even post here? Grrrrr!

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by islandhopper » Sat Feb 12, 2011 20:17

Sasha wrote:Great, another mean debate based on an innocent little comment I made. Why do I even post here? Grrrrr!
Mean? I think the Smashing Pumpkins reference led to an interesting, informed debate.

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by linus » Sat Feb 12, 2011 22:35

I think I saw the words 'smashing pumpkins' in indian summer's post, referred back to kip's before that and then made some ill-considered half-assed comment myself about them self-same smashing punkins and something to do with muse that I didn't think anyone would pay any heed to... what I didn't do was go back to see who mentioned the punkins first... you may have found the ensuing debate mean, sasha, but I don't think it was aimed at you... I can't see in any of the posts that anyone was being specifically mean about you or your post but I'm willing to stand corrected

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by indiansummer » Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:46

sasha, peace up, it's all good

whatever anyone's feelings about billy corgan's lot (and let's face it, they're a contentious issue at the best of times) i wouldn't worry about your comment or hey linus's or anyone's. it's all good!
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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by StKip » Mon Feb 14, 2011 20:45

Hi Anora-chists,

Here's the tracklist for our new album, Belong (3/29/2011)!

1. Belong
2. Heaven’s Gonna Happen Now
3. Heart in Your Heartbreak
4. The Body
5. Anne With an E
6. Even in Dreams
7. My Terrible Friend
8. Girl of 1,000 Dreams
9. Too Tough
10. Strange

For those of you who were at the "George Washington's Penis" performance at Buffalo Bar in London, a bunch of these may already be familiar. Of all the bands that we're influenced by, I'm rather surprised no one has mentioned that one yet.

And yes, apologies in advance as I do realize that it's generally not that interesting to read a bunch of song titles.

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by pebble » Fri Feb 18, 2011 01:31

Just picked up some lovely new items from Lost and Lonesome from Australia which included the cdep version of Say No To Love. The Australian CD release of Say No To Love has been remastered from the US and UK vinyl editions, and adds the bonus exclusive track "I Wanna Go All the Way", an infectious burst of fizzy joy recorded as a demo early in the band's life, back in 2007. Not sure to be honest if this demo has ever been released before but at £4.49 it's a nice addition to your Pains collection!

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by Trev » Fri Feb 18, 2011 09:41

That demo came out originally on a scatterbrain compilation. The name of which escapes me now!

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by Colin » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:01

Trev wrote:That demo came out originally on a scatterbrain compilation. The name of which escapes me now!
If You Like Everything, There's Nothing Left To Love.

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by Very Truly Yours » Fri Feb 18, 2011 17:52

I got this track on the Slumberland "First 20 Years" Comp. that came out for their anniversary shows. The liner notes say it's from the Japanese release of the debut album.
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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by Trev » Sat Feb 19, 2011 18:31

not really here

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by StKip » Sat Feb 19, 2011 21:27

We recorded a "real" version of "I Wanna Go All the Way" as the b-side to the 'Belong' 7". We'll have it with us on tour, and there's also a "pink vinyl" version exclusive to insound.com

http://www.insound.com/Belong-Vinyl-7in ... /INS91455/

and no, this is not some gimmick to rip off completists or inflate sales (i think we just made 500 of the pink ones anyway), but just something nice we wanted to do with insound 'cuz we have friends who work there... I think the normal version is on light blue vinyl, so it's pretty cool either way (or at least we think so).

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by HeyMickeyH » Sun Feb 20, 2011 00:33

philjunebride wrote:I have had to start selling records on E-Bay to try and help towards financing the band going to America this year. Bad news for me, but good news if you are after the ultra rare first POBPAH split single - Kurt Cobain's Cardigan. Mine is on E-Bay (sorry, Kip and Co!).

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pains-Being-Pure- ... 500wt_1156
Wow, a genuine copy of that EP! I heard a couple of songs from it streamed on last.fm. I looked around for a copy but had to resort to shadier areas of the internet in the end. It's a great record, even in the crap quality mp3 version I have (The Parallelograms tracks are ace too).

Also, Smashing Punpkins were great up to and including 1979 (the song, obviously this is not a sarcastic comment that Billy Corgan went wrong when he first picked up a fisher-price guitar in nusery school). Then they went rubbish. I can't imagine a twee version. I'm trying to imagine Today, but with jangly guitars and the lyrics interpreted in a more positive way.

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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by indiansummer » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:08

HeyMickeyH wrote:Also, Smashing Punpkins were great up to and including 1979 (the song, obviously this is not a sarcastic comment that Billy Corgan went wrong when he first picked up a fisher-price guitar in nusery school). Then they went rubbish. I can't imagine a twee version. I'm trying to imagine Today, but with jangly guitars and the lyrics interpreted in a more positive way.
Today isn't exactly worlds away from that POBPAH song to be fair

and i mean that in a good way
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Re: The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

Post by RITH » Sun Feb 20, 2011 20:59

I'm finally seeing them (in Amsterdam) next week. I'm hoping there'll be lots of both new and old songs!

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