Starting and running a label

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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by RITH » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:45

Where do you get your cardboard envelopes that fit 12" LPs?

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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by Trev » Fri Jun 07, 2013 13:03

eBay usually via sounds wholesale in the uk. Search for 12" mailers.

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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by RITH » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:36

Would someone mind sending me a list of websites/addresses of people who've actually reviewed one or more of your DIY pop records in the past? I'm working on my own list, but some help would be, ehm, helpful.

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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by alongwaltz » Thu Jun 27, 2013 15:50

I solicited 71 blogs for our last release but only 2 actually wound up reviewing the EP:
Gray Owl Point - http://grayowlpoint.com/
The Sound Of Confusion - http://thesoundofconfusionblog.blogspot.ca/

Gray Owl only reviews Canadian music, though.

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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by humblebee » Wed Jul 10, 2013 15:44

UK label folks - what do you charge for posting a CD to the UK, EU and worldwide, please?

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Post by Trev » Wed Jul 10, 2013 16:05

humblebee wrote:UK label folks - what do you charge for posting a CD to the UK, EU and worldwide, please?

These are the prices I charge but they might be a little out of date with current postage charges. My 7s and LPs are the things I send more of (and have updated the postage I charge as I have worked out what the average cost is!)

£2.00 UK
£2.50 Europe
£3.00 Rest of the world
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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by humblebee » Wed Jul 10, 2013 16:40

That's for CDs though Trev, right?

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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by Trev » Wed Jul 10, 2013 16:42

humblebee wrote:That's for CDs though Trev, right?
Yep, they're my CD prices - the PO website does have a handy weight/size guide with prices, so it's worth a look.

12" Vinyl is £3, £5/£6 and £8/9 respectively.
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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by roundbitsofplastic » Wed Jul 10, 2013 18:16

So yeah, I guess I started a record label. That said, I reckon it's not officially a label til there's a second release. We'll see.
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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by MJHibbett » Wed Jul 10, 2013 22:59

humblebee wrote:UK label folks - what do you charge for posting a CD to the UK, EU and worldwide, please?
I don't charge at all - it always seems a bit Ryanair to advertise the price for a CD then add on the postage, how else are people going to get it? I guess you could say it's included in the price. For overseas I don't charge any different because a) it's a pain in the arse b) I don't sell that many overseas c) it makes everything MUCH less complicated d) i LOVE the idea of people in Thunder Bay, Canada (for instance) getting my CDs.

Of course, this may explain why the only time I've ever made a profit from a release is the time we got compensated for NOT putting something out...

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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by Trev » Wed Jul 10, 2013 23:05

MJHibbett wrote:
humblebee wrote:UK label folks - what do you charge for posting a CD to the UK, EU and worldwide, please?
I don't charge at all - it always seems a bit Ryanair to advertise the price for a CD then add on the postage, how else are people going to get it? I guess you could say it's included in the price. For overseas I don't charge any different because a) it's a pain in the arse b) I don't sell that many overseas c) it makes everything MUCH less complicated d) i LOVE the idea of people in Thunder Bay, Canada (for instance) getting my CDs.

Of course, this may explain why the only time I've ever made a profit from a release is the time we got compensated for NOT putting something out...
That's all very noble but if I didn't charge postage I'd have to jack in the label, I can't afford to lose £8/£9 postage on every LP I press and sell outside Europe - same goes for a £4/£5 on a 7". CDs are a little cheaper, but if I absorbed the postage they'd probably not break even either.

Sending stuff costs money, people understand this. If they can't stomach postage they can buy digital or try and source from local distros.
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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by MJHibbett » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:30

That's one of the MANY reasons i don't do vinyl!

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Post by Trev » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:49

MJHibbett wrote:That's one of the MANY reasons i don't do vinyl!
But I like vinyl. And CD sales are tappering off a lot for Odd Box. So much so, that I am considering abandoning them in the future. Have plans for CD releases next year - but after that I am probably going to drop them altogether. Vinyl/Download followed by Tape/Download seem to be the best combinations for selling stuff these days.
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Post by fika_recordings » Thu Jul 11, 2013 19:55

.... and just as I'm about to dive headfirst into the sea [D] of CDs. More and more of my upcoming things look like they'll be LP and CD. Exciting. Scary. The first one is out on Monday. Someone better buy it or I'm eating beans for the next 6 years. And I HATE beans.
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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by alongwaltz » Fri Jul 12, 2013 14:46

I don't know if it's different/cheaper in Europe but vinyl is so ridiculously expensive here.

The absolute cheapest place we've found will do a run of 300 black 7" singles for about $900 or 574 pounds. Meanwhile we can do CD's or cassettes for a quarter of that price.

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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by Trev » Fri Jul 12, 2013 15:28

Think vinyl is cheaper in North America than it is Europe. 300 7s with picture sleeves and colour labels is about £700.

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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by alongwaltz » Sun Jul 21, 2013 22:28

How do you promote your label? What approaches have you found that worked best or didn't work?


We've got flyers made up and hand them out at all our shows and we table at the odd zine or craft fair.

I share our page's status updates on my personal Facebook page and invite all my friends.

We're on Bandcamp and Soundcloud and Vimeo and Tumblr.


I always hear people talk about how YouTube made them famous. Is posting live videos on there worth it?

We don't really have any indie record shops in our area that are supportive at all.

I'm always contacting other labels in California and Mexico and trying to strike up friendships and alliances with them but they never seem all that interested.

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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by RITH » Wed Aug 07, 2013 15:33

Unique codes for digital downloads to go with vinyl... what's the best place to use?

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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by paukl » Wed Aug 07, 2013 16:03

We use bandcamp, it's something like £3 for 100 codes, or £1 for 300 codes, or something. Either way it's very cheap!

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Re: Starting and running a label

Post by tompony » Wed Aug 07, 2013 16:06

I've only ever used bandcamp but I noticed that the Colour Me Wednesday album came with a code from https://cardincluded.com if you'd like an alternative option.

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