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Joanna Newsom

Post by morning chorus » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:17 am

there must be a thread elsewhere?

anyway, here you go:

http://naturalismo.wordpress.com/2009/0 ... n-big-sur/

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by Rocker » Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:52 pm

Am I the only person to find her "quirky" vocals and interminable harp-based folk songs rather pretentious and irritating?

She seems to me to be one of those artists that people don't like to criticise because of who they have worked with, in her case Bill Callahan, Steve Albini and Jim O'Rourke.
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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by morning chorus » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:18 pm

Rocker wrote:Am I the only person to find her "quirky" vocals and interminable harp-based folk songs rather pretentious and irritating?

She seems to me to be one of those artists that people don't like to criticise because of who they have worked with, in her case Bill Callahan, Steve Albibi and Jim O'Rourke.
whilst you are certainly entitled to the opinion expressed in your first sentence, i would have thought your second sentence was way off the mark...

these people worked with her only after succumbing to her talents... i'd say it is them in awe of her rather than the other way around... either way, i certainly don't think that it has made the slightest bit of difference to the way people critique her music...

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by Mr Bear » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:27 pm

I think she's amazing. Both live and on record she's spellbinding. Saw her play some new songs last summer - there was one in particular that really stood out. I'll see if it's on youtube.

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by Mr Bear » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:32 pm

Here it is, from a different show. It's seemingly either called Esme or Esame.


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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by annie » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:55 pm

Mr Bear wrote:I think she's amazing.
what he said.
Mr Bear wrote:Here it is, from a different show. It's seemingly either called Esme or Esame.
i love that one, have tried in vain so far to find a live recording of it. i wasn't much of a fan of the songs she played on the piano at somerset house last year, but i suppose they're still evolving, and they'll probably grow on me anyway.

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by noodlé » Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:18 pm

Rocker wrote:Am I the only person to find her "quirky" vocals and interminable harp-based folk songs rather pretentious and irritating?

She seems to me to be one of those artists that people don't like to criticise because of who they have worked with, in her case Bill Callahan, Steve Albini and Jim O'Rourke.
she can be infuriatingly precious - especially live - but i find her music spellbinding.

a while ago a did a copy of the 'milk eyed mender' for a friend who'd been asking for music tips. he said that the first time he listened he thought i was playing some kind of joke, but he listened again and was smitten. more than most, i think she must be a marmite kind of artist. i know an awful lot of people with similar tastes to me who hate her deeply, and i wouldn't dream of trying to convince them to give her another chance.
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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by morning chorus » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:30 pm

while this is not exactly concrete, it's pretty close to it...

new album in the autumn plus dates... according to her booking agent:

http://billions.com/avails

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by morning chorus » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:02 pm

so a triple album (3 cd's!) out next month... does anyone care?

i do...

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by annie » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:12 pm

me too! ys and the milk-eyed mender are two of my favourite albums, so i'm looking forward to hearing her new stuff. you can listen to a new track here. it's alright.

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by indiansummer » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:19 pm

For no discernible reason i just managed to confuse Joanna Newsom with Marnie Stern. That could potentially be an uncomfortable mistake to make.

Thank fuck it was just in my brain.
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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by morning chorus » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:56 pm

i haven't heard any new stuff and don't want to until i have the album... but a triple album makes me a bit worried...

2004 - single album
2006 - double album
2010 - triple album

...i guess we'll be getting a quadruple one in 2018 if this series is continued

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by alongwaltz » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:43 pm

Ys wasn't really a double album.

I'm just interested to see the tracklist and find out how long the songs on this one are.

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by Magic Johnson » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:05 am

I think she is perfect. Can't wait for the new album. I met her once - I gave her some cookies and she gave me a hug.

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by nanski » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:04 pm

Rocker wrote:Am I the only person to find her "quirky" vocals and interminable harp-based folk songs rather pretentious and irritating?

She seems to me to be one of those artists that people don't like to criticise because of who they have worked with, in her case Bill Callahan, Steve Albini and Jim O'Rourke.
I see what you mean. I love her, but I have to be in the right mood. She may well be the most skipped person on shuffle on my ipod.
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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by photojonny » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:52 pm

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by Mr Bear » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:29 am

Early thoughts on the new album then? Once the UK release date got put back to next week I felt no guilt about having a sneaky preview, as I'll be buying it anyway.

I'm going to open proceedings with a pretentious soundbite - I think it's the album that propels her into the canon of great American songwriters.

I'll write more later.

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by Paquito » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:09 am

I concur with every word the honourable gentleman said above, especially about having no guilt at having a sneaky preview cos of plans to buy it anyway.

Baby Birch and In California are astonishing. She's astonishing. It's one of the great LPs and many more words will be written about it. However, not now as I'm at work at 8am after not many hours sleep.
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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by boney » Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:09 am

It makes me want to listen to Joni Mitchell/makes me think I already am in places. Her phrasing, the arrangements (in places). In a good way though.

'Good Intentions Paving Company' is seriously wonderful.

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Re: Joanna Newsom

Post by Mr Bear » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:24 am

The feeling I get from this album is real sense of the morning after the night before, particularly in the middle section with songs like In California, Jackrabbits (which I absolutely love) and Go Long. Also for the most part it seems to be a very personal album - which, in reference to Craig's post, is Joni Mitchell-esque in itself - the Disney-folk and made up words are all but gone* and what's left sounds seriously honest. Almost painfully at times. It's a stunning album though. I've stopped listening to the mp3s though**, as I imagine that some thought went into which songs to put on which disc, and listening to a series of 18 mp3s takes them out of that context.

*not that I'm having a dig at her previous stuff, I still love it.

**apart from listening to the title track just now, as I woke up with it in my head. Other current favourites are Go Long and Soft as Chalk.

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