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Post by soft revolution » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:36 pm

I'm properly hooked on TNG at the moment now that it's on Virgin 1. I'm proper gutted that I've managed to miss my favourite episodes though - the one where the Borg make it to Federation Space, the one with the Enterprise C and the one with Kelsey Grammer and the Enterprise being stuck in a loop.

I enjoyed DS9 but I feel it was *utterly* shown how to do Space Stations properly by B5 and I kind of lost interest around the same time that Worf came on board.

Voyager I never got into until two years ago when it was on mid-day on Saturday and the concept allowed for some amazing episodes.

Enterprise is a fantastic concept but I can't stand the title sequence, it's the most ill advised anything ever. Kind of ruined it for me and it wasn't really as good as it should have been, but I've never given it loads of time to be fair to it.

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Post by caramarydaisy » Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:34 am

love. it.

i was always most into voyager but i somehow missed loads of the end and have some serious geeking out to do in order to catch up. i will one day.

deep space nine was pretty good. i like dax. it was totally hot when she hooked up with a girlfriend from her past when she was a man.

totally with you on enterprise. WHY move away from the time honoured tradition of star trek opening sequences (yknow, space, some spaceships, some stars and some orchestral spacey music). i watched it if it was on tv and i caught it but never went out of my way.

STAR TREK - new movie, wooooo!!!
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Post by tonieee » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:42 am

soft revolution wrote:I enjoyed DS9 but I feel it was *utterly* shown how to do Space Stations properly by B5
I'd heard a rumour that JMS had presented pretty much the plot of B5 to Paramount for a Star Trek series and they'd turned it down and then ripped off huge parts of it with DS9.
soft revolution wrote:and I kind of lost interest around the same time that Worf came on board.
That's when it started getting good!

Me and Jo have just started watching series 7 of DS9 and really enjoying it.

Me and Ralph have recently finished watching the animated series which I'd never really seen before and it is really good. It might as well be episodes of the original series (if you can ignore the animation) - you don't really notice that they are only half as long. Ralph really enjoyed it too and we ended up making him a Mr Spock uniform.

We have just started on season 1 of the original series which I love but Ralph doesn't seem so keen on - I think he sees watching it as a favour to me!

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Post by tonieee » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:48 am

caramarydaisy wrote:i like dax.
I prefer Ezri to Jadzia.
caramarydaisy wrote:totally with you on enterprise. WHY move away from the time honoured tradition of star trek opening sequences (yknow, space, some spaceships, some stars and some orchestral spacey music). i watched it if it was on tv and i caught it but never went out of my way.
I started out liking it during the first series (but hated the title sequence) but it got worse as it went on and watched the second series but didn't enjoy it all and then didn't watch it again after that. I've heard the fourth series is good.
caramarydaisy wrote:STAR TREK - new movie, wooooo!!!
I can't wait for this. I'll may even go to watch it in my Captain Kirk uniform with my phaser and communicator!

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Post by soft revolution » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:23 am

I may have to get hold of the animated series. It sounds good.
caramarydaisy wrote:i was always most into voyager but i somehow missed loads of the end and have some serious geeking out to do in order to catch up. i will one day.
There are some fantastic episodes of Voyager, I think it may be my favourite Star Trek. There's one fantastic two parter where they come across another Star Fleet ship which was also displaced by The Caretaker. I've still not seen any of the episodes with Species 8472 though.
tonieee wrote:I'd heard a rumour that JMS had presented pretty much the plot of B5 to Paramount for a Star Trek series and they'd turned it down and then ripped off huge parts of it with DS9.
Ooh, they lost out big time there. Mind you, it would have had major implications on the Star Trek timeline (Earth is the baddie?!) and Star Trek never really properly explains human politics.
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soft revolution wrote:and I kind of lost interest around the same time that Worf came on board.
That's when it started getting good!
I know, I think I stopped having a TV at around that time and then couldn't link the episodes that I saw together. I must go back and watch the end of DS9 one day.
caramarydaisy wrote:STAR TREK - new movie, wooooo!!!
What's the new film about?
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Post by tonieee » Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:27 pm

soft revolution wrote:What's the new film about?
It's about the early days of Spock and Kirk, pre the original series. It could potentially be rubbish but from what photos I've seen they're going for the look of the original series which is ace. It's got Leonard Nimoy in it as old Spock and the bloke who plays Silar in Heroes is the young Spock. I think he has the right look for Spock.

And Simon Pegg is playing Scotty!

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Post by kingofpartick » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:14 pm

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Post by mark gibson » Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:44 pm

Saw a bit of it, it was weird because it looked like you stumbled into another genre for the first few seconds. I thought they'd posted the wrong trailer up. But it was really great. And they've obviously done a job of up dating the old story.

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Post by kingofpartick » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:01 pm

mark gibson wrote:Saw a bit of it, it was weird because it looked like you stumbled into another genre for the first few seconds. I thought they'd posted the wrong trailer up. But it was really great. And they've obviously done a job of up dating the old story.
aye. it looks pretty spectacular. Spock looks amazing, and i had a good chuckle at Simon Pegg. The Enterprise set looks amazing. Faithul to the original series look, but totally on the money. I notice its also a pre-enterprise enterprise, and not the NCC-1071 (no bloody A, B, C or D).
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Post by soft revolution » Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:19 pm

Has the Enterprise B ever turned up in anything yet?
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Post by kingofpartick » Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:54 pm

soft revolution wrote:Has the Enterprise B ever turned up in anything yet?
Aye, it was in Generations with captain Alan Ruck, being launched, and captain kirk was at the ceremony and died, but then came back and died again later on.

C was seen in TNG with Kelsey Grammar as the captain i think.

Is it up to Enterprise E in the Next Gen films now? I did love the future enterprise in All Good Things when Admiral Ryker comes to the rescue in the future.
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Post by soft revolution » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:42 pm

kingofpartick wrote:
soft revolution wrote:Has the Enterprise B ever turned up in anything yet?
Aye, it was in Generations with captain Alan Ruck, being launched, and captain kirk was at the ceremony and died, but then came back and died again later on.

C was seen in TNG with Kelsey Grammar as the captain i think.

Is it up to Enterprise E in the Next Gen films now? I did love the future enterprise in All Good Things when Admiral Ryker comes to the rescue in the future.
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It was great in the card game as well as it had a movement of 12 and was armed up to the teeth.

Card game? Um.

Kelsey Grammar was in Cause and Effect as captain of the USS Bozeman. Same class of ship though? The Enterprise C had a female captain I think. Cant remember her name.

I did like how the Enterprise C episode set up the whole plot line with Sela: the acceptable face of Romulan opression.
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Post by Your Funny Uncle » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:59 pm

Every time I install quicktime it knackers my PC, so I downloaded the trailer as a torrent. Also it's on youtube.



It does look really good, and I agree that the casting of Zachary Quinto as Spock is spot-on. As someone who always enjoyed Trek but found it a little too goody-goody, this one looks a bit more fun. I really wish they'd make a Babylon 5 film...

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Post by soft revolution » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:06 pm

Your Funny Uncle wrote:I really wish they'd make a Babylon 5 film...
A 36 hour epic encompasing themes of morality, state control through violence, religion, and good vs evil (and how you define both) would be the strap line.

Theres loads of clips on Youtube of crosspolinated space battles between different series.

B5 vs Star Trek



I love the ships in B5. The technology seems less spurious and the lazers are awesome.
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Post by Your Funny Uncle » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:23 pm

Hehe that's just daft... I would've liked to see a few Romulans, Ferengi, Klingons, Minbari, Narn and Centauri weigh in, too. Maybe a Borg cube agains the Vorlons....

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Post by tonieee » Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:36 pm

Your Funny Uncle wrote:I really wish they'd make a Babylon 5 film...
I don't. I want another series - I don't think B5 would work as well as a film. Have you seen Legend of the Rangers or the new straight to DVD one? I keep meaning to buy them but never got round to it.

Babylon 5 space battles I think are the best ones ever and it is probably my most favourite space-based series.

Anyway, back on topic - I can't wait for the new Star Trek film but I'm not watching no trailers - I've even stopped buying Star Trek Magazine so I can watch the film in total ignorance. I'm hoping it's more of a Rose than a Phantom Menace.

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Post by Your Funny Uncle » Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:01 am

The Legend of the Rangers is utter guff... I haven't seen the newer one but I did read that J Michael Straczynski wasn't happy with the quality of it... A new show would of course be ace but it would need to have the same multi-season pre-planned ethos as the original. Also it should be something with a decent budget or it just wouldn't be worth it...

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Post by mae » Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:37 am

haha, i watched the trailer the other day and it seemed so young and sexy and actiony, what the fuck? i didn't know it had simon pegg in it though, that's great.

my brother was such a trekky growing up and i watched it with him all the time. we also played that star trek board game that came with a video once. ds9 is alright but voyager was great. it's annoying that ds9 seems to be the one they always show repeats of on tele, i think i've seen every episode a hundred times. i couldn't get into enterprise, i think it was because of that stupid title sequence. i probably still watched quite a lot of it though.

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Post by Gordon » Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:36 pm

kingofpartick wrote:
mark gibson wrote:Saw a bit of it, it was weird because it looked like you stumbled into another genre for the first few seconds. I thought they'd posted the wrong trailer up. But it was really great. And they've obviously done a job of up dating the old story.
aye. it looks pretty spectacular. Spock looks amazing, and i had a good chuckle at Simon Pegg. The Enterprise set looks amazing. Faithul to the original series look, but totally on the money. I notice its also a pre-enterprise enterprise, and not the NCC-1071 (no bloody A, B, C or D).
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Post by kingofpartick » Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:51 pm

Gordon wrote: 1701
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