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Re: Eastenders

Post by lynsosaurus » Sun Feb 21, 2010 20:42

islandhopper wrote:Oh, I just remembered another mistake. Unless Max was so overcome with emotion after watching Bradley fall to his death that he couldn't get any sound out while seemingly shouting then they just forgot to turn his mic on.
it also looked like max was about to stick his fingers down his throat to make himself sick just after bradley jumped. that was weird.

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Re: Eastenders

Post by linus » Sun Feb 21, 2010 22:00

yeh, now that was weird

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Re: Eastenders

Post by a layer of chips » Tue Mar 09, 2010 14:12

Is it a bit wrong have the glad eye for that Zsa Zsa one?

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Re: Eastenders

Post by linus » Tue Mar 09, 2010 14:15

is she one of the nans?

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Re: Eastenders

Post by a layer of chips » Tue Mar 09, 2010 14:16

She's the one with that blue shit in her hair.

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Re: Eastenders

Post by caramarydaisy » Tue Mar 09, 2010 14:25

whats going on with this missing post/billy/masood storyline??
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Post by linus » Tue Mar 09, 2010 14:26

sounds like a nan

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Re: Eastenders

Post by caramarydaisy » Tue Apr 27, 2010 13:27

im so glad the christian/syed storylines coming out, apparently theres loads more to it yet to come. brilliant!

ameera is totally up the duff and is going to make some sort of dramatic heavily pregnant/carrying a baby re-entrance in a few months.
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Re: Eastenders

Post by humblebee » Tue Apr 27, 2010 13:36

caramarydaisy wrote:im so glad the christian/syed storylines coming out, apparently theres loads more to it yet to come. brilliant!
Don't you find it all a bit 1980s? Ooh, there are these people called the gays, and do you know what they do? I know, fancy that. Bound to end in trouble.

It's kind of outrageous that none of the soaps has had a bi character, really, isn't it? But then Eastenders would be sure to make such a lamentable job of the whole thing that it's probably best left alone.

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Post by linus » Tue Apr 27, 2010 13:37

caramarydaisy wrote:brilliant
for 'brilliant' read painfully contrived with an understanding of islam presumbly cribbed off wikipedia and radio phone-ins

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Re: Eastenders

Post by caramarydaisy » Tue Apr 27, 2010 14:00

humblebee wrote:
caramarydaisy wrote:im so glad the christian/syed storylines coming out, apparently theres loads more to it yet to come. brilliant!
Don't you find it all a bit 1980s? Ooh, there are these people called the gays, and do you know what they do? I know, fancy that. Bound to end in trouble.

It's kind of outrageous that none of the soaps has had a bi character, really, isn't it? But then Eastenders would be sure to make such a lamentable job of the whole thing that it's probably best left alone.
hollyoaks ravi is currently openly bi.
neighbours donna is currently openly bi.
eastenders sonia could arguably have been bi.
emmerdale jasmine and debbie are currently openly bi.

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caramarydaisy wrote:brilliant
for 'brilliant' read painfully contrived with an understanding of islam presumbly cribbed off wikipedia and radio phone-ins

im really enjoying it is all i was saying. i love a nice storyline about the gays. as for a realistic portrayal? i dont know that i really watch soaps for them to be terribly true to life, just think its good theyre trying to address gay storylines and that theyre giving this one a proper bit of attention instead of letting it dry out into nothing.
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Re: Eastenders

Post by linus » Tue Apr 27, 2010 14:05

humblebee wrote:
caramarydaisy wrote:im so glad the christian/syed storylines coming out, apparently theres loads more to it yet to come. brilliant!
Don't you find it all a bit 1980s? Ooh, there are these people called the gays, and do you know what they do? I know, fancy that. Bound to end in trouble.

It's kind of outrageous that none of the soaps has had a bi character, really, isn't it? But then Eastenders would be sure to make such a lamentable job of the whole thing that it's probably best left alone.
it's been interesting talking to some of yer' actual proper practising muslims about this because there is a story to tell about young gay muslims but not in the sledgehammer/nut way that eastenders have done so (and you might need more than one family of muslims to tell this story with)... this storyline certainly seems to be being talked about in 'the community' (round here, from what folks are saying) but more in the way that it's getting so much so spectacularly wrong and that the writers are playing fast and loose with the characters and the writing... when the family first appeared they were muslims with all the islam taken out, they didn't go to mosque, they all go to the pub (something rather more culturally significant amongt muslims than non-muslims) and now they're suddenly super devout and quoting this, that and the other... obviously, it's eastenders so none of this stuff is well conceived or grounded in any sense of the real world but presumably there are still some people who watch it and don't tut and shake their heads at the sheer bumheadedness of it all and think that somehow this does reflect real life as it's lived

and that's, if you want it to be, rather worrying

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Re: Eastenders

Post by humblebee » Tue Apr 27, 2010 14:07

caramarydaisy wrote:hollyoaks ravi is openly bi.
neighbours donna is openly bi.
eastenders sonia could arguably be bi.
Gah! I really shouldn't try and have discussions about soaps.

Soap, on the other hand, I can tell you anything about.

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Re: Eastenders

Post by caramarydaisy » Tue Apr 27, 2010 14:11

humblebee wrote:
caramarydaisy wrote:hollyoaks ravi is openly bi.
neighbours donna is openly bi.
eastenders sonia could arguably be bi.
Gah! I really shouldn't try and have discussions about soaps.

Soap, on the other hand, I can tell you anything about.
soap nuts? i was trying to tell someone about them the other day and they thought i was making it up!
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Re: Eastenders

Post by linus » Tue Apr 27, 2010 14:13

caramarydaisy wrote:im really enjoying it is all i was saying. i love a nice storyline about the gays. as for a realistic portrayal? i dont know that i really watch soaps for them to be terribly true to life, just think its good theyre trying to address gay storylines and that theyre giving this one a proper bit of attention instead of letting it dry out into nothing.
so it's better to have 'the gays' on telly even if the depiction is deeply crass, tokenistic and insensitive because no 'the gays' on telly is somehow worse?

that's not really very progressive, is it?

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Re: Eastenders

Post by lynsosaurus » Tue Apr 27, 2010 14:15

i thought last night's episode was proper grim, but the most offensive part of it is surely christian's acting. if i have to see that frantic, plaintive goggle-eyed look once more i might have to stab myself in the eyes with a rusty nail.

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Re: Eastenders

Post by caramarydaisy » Tue Apr 27, 2010 14:23

fogofideas wrote:
caramarydaisy wrote:im really enjoying it is all i was saying. i love a nice storyline about the gays. as for a realistic portrayal? i dont know that i really watch soaps for them to be terribly true to life, just think its good theyre trying to address gay storylines and that theyre giving this one a proper bit of attention instead of letting it dry out into nothing.
so it's better to have 'the gays' on telly even if the depiction is deeply crass, tokenistic and insensitive because no 'the gays' on telly is somehow worse?

that's not really very progressive, is it?
i think the fact theyre even attempting to do this sort of storyline is pretty daring and as a gay i cant say ive been offended by the way its been handled. add to that, the bits ive read about the storylines reception seem to indicate its been received it in a positive light by the wider gay community.

http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2009/11/ea ... -character

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/09/29/ea ... beautiful/

i just think its interesting its causing such debate, be that by people who disagree with how its been handled or who are enjoying the storyline. surely thats the most important thing, man.
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Re: Eastenders

Post by linus » Tue Apr 27, 2010 14:35

please don't get gender specific on my arse, person

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Re: Eastenders

Post by caramarydaisy » Tue Apr 27, 2010 14:38

fogofideas wrote:please don't get gender specific on my arse, person
pardon?
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Re: Eastenders

Post by linus » Tue Apr 27, 2010 14:40

referring to me as 'man'... how dare you! the affrontery!

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