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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by indiansummer » Thu May 27, 2010 10:21

fogofideas wrote:tomine's early mini-comics are pretty much indebted to clowes in terms of drawing style and approach, he was upfront about that at the time, that's kind of why I liked him, he was a fan of the comics I was reading and it showed (but in a good way), he totally has the horn for jaime hernandez too, I can see that in his artwork and his stories
That's interesting. I've not read many interviews with Tomine, though i've got that 32 Stories (i think) book that collects his early mini-comics. I love those compendiums; it's sometimes even more fascinating to see their early work than the finished, polished article.

Likewise Chester Brown's The Little Man is a great read.
I find the idea that all indie comic books look the same and all superhero art looks the same as reductive and insulting as saying all heavy metal sounds the same, all hip hip sounds the same, etc

I mean I don't feel insulted personally... it does make me feel rather alone in the world though, like there's me and I can see and appreciate the differances and so on and then there's the world out there that doesn't notice and is just indifferent
i agree entirely, although given that i've just enquired as to whether anyone else thinks the artwork of 3 indie artists is similar, maybe i've not got a leg to stand on.

There are of course huge differences between their styles and i could easily pick them out in the unlikely event that i was ever tested on the dubject... there's just similar characteristics and i was wondering if anyone else had noticed, that's all.

i find it perculiar that anyone might find... say, Glenn Head, Chris Ware and (oh, why not?) Dan Clowes similar in any way though.

Equally i've loved the distinctive work of some superhero book artists over the years (if less so these days). John Romita Jr's weird square faces and scratchy shading were an absolute joy to me when i first started getting into comics in the early 90s.
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by linus » Thu May 27, 2010 10:31

I'd say that ware and clowes have rather a lot in common, both write about the bleakness and alienation of human existence in a knockabout for laffs way and something like 'ice haven' by clowes has the same sweep of history that ware used in 'jimmy corrigan' and some of their artwork for me shares similarities (the simple line stuff, rather cartoony) ... they also used to 'hang out' (and possibly still do, I don't like to presume), living in close proximity and would break their days at their respective drawin boards to take walks to the post office together (true story)

it was cool seeing dan clowes and alan moore on an episode of the simpsons the other evening, I'd not seen that episode before

apparently, on the subject of charles burns, there's a 'black hole' movie in the offing...

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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by Final Loan » Thu May 27, 2010 10:37

fogofideas wrote:I find the idea that all indie comic books look the same and all superhero art looks the same as reductive and insulting as saying all heavy metal sounds the same, all hip hip sounds the same, etc
I was being facetious. I'm a massive comic geek, you know. It's just I don't have a lot of the more indie end of the spectrum cos it doesn't really appeal to me.

I don't just buy purely superhero books either - I'm usually more interested in the authors and their stories than following the X-Men, etc. religiously. Which means I mostly buy things that come out from Avatar or Vertigo than DC or Marvel...
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by Final Loan » Thu May 27, 2010 10:40

fogofideas wrote:it was cool seeing dan clowes and alan moore on an episode of the simpsons the other evening, I'd not seen that episode before
I love the first half of that episode. The second half... meh.

"So you like that I made your favourite superhero a heroin-addicted jazz critic who's NOT radioactive?"
"I don't read the words, I just look at the pictures. How do you make his clothes stick to his muscles?"
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by linus » Thu May 27, 2010 10:52

sorry, I did rather come out of my corner tapping my typing fingers wildly there

I love comics full stop but there's too damn many of them, I never have enough money to really indulge myself as much as I'd like and something something about time as well...

I tend to veer towards the opposite of the 'I know what I like and I like what I know' outlook (for comics, music, films, possibly everything) in that 'I don't know what I don't like so show me what I don't know'

which is probably bollocks but it's sort of how I feel

I mean, when I like something a lot it's obsessive and for life but it's never at the exclusion of all that other stuff that I'm aware is out there or might be out there- I don't like the idea I'm missing out on something GRATE

does any of this make sense?

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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by indiansummer » Thu May 27, 2010 10:53

fogofideas wrote:I'd say that ware and clowes have rather a lot in common, both write about the bleakness and alienation of human existence in a knockabout for laffs way and something like 'ice haven' by clowes has the same sweep of history that ware used in 'jimmy corrigan' and some of their artwork for me shares similarities (the simple line stuff, rather cartoony) ... they also used to 'hang out' (and possibly still do, I don't like to presume), living in close proximity and would break their days at their respective drawin boards to take walks to the post office together (true story)
That's defo true, i can't argue with any of that. I suppose i was talking about their artwork more than their themes. Although i'd managed to forget about a lot of the more varied stuff that Ice Haven and some of Clowes' shorts use. Not to mention the breadth of Ware's style. bad example, badly used. fair cop.

have you read any of John Pham's stuff, by the way?
it was cool seeing dan clowes and alan moore on an episode of the simpsons the other evening, I'd not seen that episode before

apparently, on the subject of charles burns, there's a 'black hole' movie in the offing...
not seen the episode, not heard about the movie... as with all movie adaptations of comics, i'm not sure how i feel about this on first hearing (well, reading). Any details?
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by Final Loan » Thu May 27, 2010 11:17

Not read Black Hole, but heard that Fincher is to direct... I like Fincher (mostly) so maybe it'll be good...?

More comic film news: Jamie Bell, Alden Ehrenreich, Frank Dillane, Andrew Garfield and Josh Hutcherson are in the running for the titular role in the next Spiderman movie. And there's gonna be a live action film of... um... Dilbert?!
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by linus » Thu May 27, 2010 12:18

david fincher, you say? that's interesting... I really rated 'zodiac' which I think was very underrated, I don't know anything about the film adaption, will

the idea of a dilbert movie is, um, brave

pham's stuff looks interesting, I just had a read of this: http://www.comicsreporter.com/index.php ... john_pham/

I hope I get a chance to check his comics out

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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by indiansummer » Thu May 27, 2010 12:32

The two volumes of Sublife that Fantagraphics have put out are well worth investigation, and last time i checked they were available for buttons through Amazon marketplace.

i thoroughly enjoyed them anyway - worth a look!

i'd like to see his old Epoxy stuff too.

Actually i've neglected comics of late... any recommendations?
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by linus » Thu May 27, 2010 12:38

pffft! I haven't bought much of anything in the last few months, I enjoyed the beto hernandez books that have been coming out and there was great little french graphic novel set in a brothel that I enjoyed, plus lots of richard sala comics

other than that I'm entirely ignorant
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by Final Loan » Thu May 27, 2010 14:32

The only new thing that I've bought has been the new Grant Morrison 'Batman: the return of Bruce Wayne', which I'm only buying cos I love both Morrison and Batman.

I did start collecting the Wasteland series, by Antony Johnston, in tpb, but that's not new. And I bought a copy of Strange Suspense Vol 1, which is a collection of old horror comics by Steve Ditko, so not new either.

In fact, I think almost every comic I'm buying at the moment is on at least issue 12 - so at least a year old.
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by soft revolution » Thu May 27, 2010 19:44

MJHibbett wrote:Prove it!

DING!
DONG!

How's that for a swift reply, eh.

Edit: and tonieee beat me to it by a good few months as well. Bah!
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by KingPanda » Fri May 28, 2010 17:12

Final Loan wrote:The only new thing that I've bought has been the new Grant Morrison 'Batman: the return of Bruce Wayne', which I'm only buying cos I love both Morrison and Batman.
I took against that when looking at it in the shop, so I have not bothered with it - despite loving the Grant Morrison Batman and Robin.
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by Gordon » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:23

Oooh, I just went to London and bought the new Daniel Clowes and some random Jeffrey Brown books. That news about Black Hole is exciting (but scary).
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by linus » Thu Jun 03, 2010 18:55

since when did thor look like him from metallica going to a fancy dress party as justin lee collins?

Image

he looks a right woolly woofter

I think we know how he got so thor

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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by MJHibbett » Fri Jun 04, 2010 07:58

KingPanda wrote:
Final Loan wrote:The only new thing that I've bought has been the new Grant Morrison 'Batman: the return of Bruce Wayne', which I'm only buying cos I love both Morrison and Batman.
I took against that when looking at it in the shop, so I have not bothered with it - despite loving the Grant Morrison Batman and Robin.
I was sceptical about it, but turns out it's really really really really really EXCITING, also GOOD. Issue one especially - usually when they do Superheroes As Cavemen (NB one of the things i love about superhero comics is you can apply the word "usually" to appearances of cavemen) it's all wordless and simple and the whole thing takes about five minutes, but this one was THICK with action and Interesting Ideas and Happenstance. I was quite surprised by how much fun it was, and ALSO how much it feeds back into Batman And Robin. Give it a go!

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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by caramarydaisy » Mon Jun 14, 2010 19:26

er.. webcomics!

things im lately enjoying having discovered:

http://www.darcomic.org/ (finished but totally worth a read from the beginning)
http://www.girlfiendcomics.com/ (not very old, cute drawings and lesbians)
http://questionablecontent.net (ongoing, but am reading from beginning.. its going to take me a fair while to catch up)

any recommendations for things youve either read before or keep up with on a semi regular basis?
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by Damian » Mon Jun 14, 2010 19:56

Webcomics, definitelyScarygoround Though it might take a while to read that from the beginning. That said if you follow the link you'll see that it's recently changed and sort of been remodelled as Bad Machinery, so luckily not too much of that to catch up on.

Otherwise I really like Mulitplex

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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by caramarydaisy » Mon Jun 14, 2010 21:23

i like the look of scarygoround.. shall investigate shortly, thanks!
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by caramarydaisy » Tue Jun 15, 2010 18:19

http://invadeeverything.com/

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