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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by Sam » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:42

indiansummer wrote:
Sam wrote:Bone is awesome! i still haven't read the last one though because my ex had all but the last one and wasn't prepared to buy the massive book or the 'new editions' because he was being an elitist or something...

i only like the Jeffrey Brown Cat Getting Out of a Bag and Other Observations book. massive Chris Ware and Dan Clowes fan though... started reading some Alan Moore recently - started with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and i've just been loaned a copy of Watchmen. looking forward to that... has anyone actually read Lost Girls? i've heard mixed opinions on that...
Isn't Lost Girls basically porn, however you try to dress it up? it sounds a bit odd to me. i'm not sure i'd pay £30 for something that looks amazing but will leave me feeling a bit uncomfortable...

Dan Clowes rules... obviously, i guess...
well that's what one of my friends said, yeah. but then another (a male friend i might add) said that he couldn't get into it because it seemed to be aimed at women(?!)...
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Post by Sam » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:43

not that porn can't be aimed at women but you'd think most men would like it too right?
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Post by indiansummer » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:44

haha, i know what you mean.

still, porn about 'self-discovery' of young girls sounds a bit wrong to me.
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Post by Sam » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:46

indiansummer wrote:haha, i know what you mean.

still, porn about 'self-discovery' of young girls sounds a bit wrong to me.
agreed. was just trying to be objective and not write it off before i'd even read it. thought maybe i'd got it all wrong! guess not though. :)
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Post by Gordon » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:56

I think I've got Lost Girls as a CBZ file somewhere, although I may have deleted it for boring me (and being annoyingly drawn).
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Post by linus » Mon Oct 27, 2008 13:40

what's wrong with porn? 'birdland' by 'beto hernandez is precisely that and one of my favourite comics... evuh, precisely because it is porn... and very wet and icky porn at that

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Post by indiansummer » Mon Oct 27, 2008 13:46

linus wrote:what's wrong with porn? 'birdland' by 'beto hernandez is precisely that and one of my favourtie comics... evuh, precisely because it is porn... and very wet and icky porn at that
nothing really; i'm just not especially interested in it as a story-telling device.
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Post by Sam » Mon Oct 27, 2008 14:02

linus wrote:what's wrong with porn?
hmmmm... nothing yet everything... these days anyway.
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by KingPanda » Fri Oct 31, 2008 18:05

I've read some of Lost Girls... it certainly wants to be porn, but is often a bit too weird to work as it.

In general though, it reminds me of the Dr Ruth character from the Dark Knight Returns, the one who keeps saying that "everyone should have sex und sex und sex". Yeah right Alan, put it away, you'll have someone's eye out.
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by Tea Cozy » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:49

Lost Girls is porn, no matter how you dress it. I really think Alan Moore was thinking "Poeple will consider it art if we colour it nicely and put flowers in the background".

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Post by linus » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:18

and what's wrong with that?

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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by Sam » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:21

Found on wiki:
Moore states that the storm of criticism which he and Gebbie expected did not materialize, which he attributes in part to his design of Lost Girls as a "benign" form of pornography (he cites "people like Angela Carter who, in her book The Sadeian Women... admitted... the possibility [of] a form of pornography that was benign, that was imaginative, was beautiful, and which didn’t have the problems that she saw in a lot of other pornography"[4] as inspirations for the work). He has also said that his own description of Lost Girls as "pornography" has "wrong-footed a lot of... people."[4] Moore speculates that "if we’d have come out and said, 'well, this is a work of art,' they would have probably all said, 'no it's not, it's pornography.' So because we're saying, 'this is pornography,' they're saying, 'no it's not, it's art,' and people don't realise quite what they've said."[4]
it seems he intended it to be porn and nothing else... still, prefer Milo Manara...
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Post by indiansummer » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:26

Actually, Clumsy be Jeff Brown is basically portn, thinking about it.

A very lo-fi sort of porn, riddled with the author's insecurities, admittedly.

I haven't thought this through enough.
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Post by Sam » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:28

indiansummer wrote:Actually, Clumsy be Jeff Brown is basically portn, thinking about it.

A very lo-fi sort of porn, riddled with the author's insecurities, admittedly.

I haven't thought this through enough.
haha - i found Clumsy too embarrassing to read... i'm not normally like that too...
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Post by indiansummer » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:37

Sam wrote:
indiansummer wrote:Actually, Clumsy be Jeff Brown is basically portn, thinking about it.

A very lo-fi sort of porn, riddled with the author's insecurities, admittedly.

I haven't thought this through enough.
haha - i found Clumsy too embarrassing to read... i'm not normally like that too...
don't want to repeat everything is posted previously about Jeff Brown, but basically i'm a very big fan.

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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by Sam » Wed Nov 05, 2008 14:21

Sam wrote:
indiansummer wrote:
haha - i found Clumsy too embarrassing to read... i'm not normally like that too...
don't want to repeat everything is posted previously about Jeff Brown, but basically i'm a very big fan.

(with the possible exceptions of Bighead and Incredible Change-Bots)
i liked Cat Getting Out of a Bag and Other Observations
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by indiansummer » Wed Nov 05, 2008 14:57

Yeh, that's ok. I don't think it's his best work but it's fun. I think Clumsy and Unlikely were probably his best ones, but there was a lot of fun to be had with I Am Going To Be Small too.
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Post by Gordon » Wed Nov 05, 2008 15:02

I have clumsy and AEIOU, and AEIOU is best.
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Post by indiansummer » Wed Nov 05, 2008 15:08

It's better drawn, certainly... and if i re-read them i'd probably enjoy AEIOU more too...

but i got Clumsy when it came out, and it blew my mind. the others have all been enjoyable too, but that one probably had the biggest impact on me.

His latest one Little Things is really good.
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Re: Comic Book Chit-chat

Post by linus » Tue Nov 11, 2008 15:57

I really like jeffery brown's stuff... reminds me of his dad, chester, with them bulb heads and skinny bodies plus his art reminds me of lloyd dangle (a bit), julie doucet (some) and a lot of those autobio cartoonists from the 80's/90's

I think he has a sweet nature, seems like a nice fella'

seems to say 'stuff' almost by accident or it appears that way

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