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Post by andyroo » Thu Jul 17, 2008 13:55

All of the above.
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Post by cuppie » Fri Jul 18, 2008 04:39

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Post by Miss 9 » Mon Aug 11, 2008 15:58

Reading makes me sad sometimes because if you really, really like books you know it's ultimately the most futile of hobbies. I want to read all of the classics of the various canons and know I'll never be able to complete it if I lived a dozen lives. And also I get really bitter about translations and hate myself for not knowing ancient Greek or Lation or Italian or French or Russian because I KNOW I am surely missing the nuance.

So, you know, let's all just watch the movie instead.
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Post by crystalball » Tue Sep 09, 2008 14:34

This morning I finally finished Netherland on the train on the way to work, felt a bit sad in the way that you feel when you finish a great book and, as I was going down the escalator to get to the tube, I found a book left at the edge of it; it was Hanif Kureishi's The Buddha of Suburbia which I haven't read. Lovely bit of public transport serendipity.

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Post by My Melody » Tue Oct 07, 2008 09:22

crystalball wrote:This morning I finally finished Netherland on the train on the way to work, felt a bit sad in the way that you feel when you finish a great book and, as I was going down the escalator to get to the tube, I found a book left at the edge of it; it was Hanif Kureishi's The Buddha of Suburbia which I haven't read. Lovely bit of public transport serendipity.
Wow, what a great coincidence! Excellent! Buddha of Suburbia was the first Kureishi book that I read and it is really good (as far as I remember).
I just bought "Something to tell you" but haven't started it. Has anyone read it yet?

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Post by Martijn » Thu Dec 25, 2008 14:20

Harold Pinter died, apparently. I've never read anything by him, nor was any of his plays on my want-to-read-list. Is there something I should read?

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Post by Dan » Sun Feb 22, 2009 22:18

Hey Martijn, reading's for suckers! Listen to these five episodes of The Essay on Pinter.


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Post by Martijn » Mon Feb 23, 2009 08:27

Ah, thanks for that! Shame there's no mp3-version of it; would be nice to listen to it on the train or something. (Although I doubt that's going to work. I once listened to some poetry on the train and I got distracted after a few lines.)

Hey, Anoraks, since you all read Netherland: me and a compatriot of mine were wondering whether the bits of Dutch in the book didn't annoy you? I don't think they're essential in any way, but I would probably find it a bit strange, if a book I was reading had bits of conversation in a language I didn't speak.

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Post by andyroo » Mon Feb 23, 2009 13:50

Martijn wrote:Hey, Anoraks, since you all read Netherland: me and a compatriot of mine were wondering whether the bits of Dutch in the book didn't annoy you? I don't think they're essential in any way, but I would probably find it a bit strange, if a book I was reading had bits of conversation in a language I didn't speak.
Were there bits of Dutch in it? If so they must have been thoroughly explained because I don't remember anything in it I didn't understand. Anyway it didn't bother me at all - the only bits of non-English I really picked up on were the Trinidadian dialect words Chuck was explaining to yer man, like the lottery game (wei-wei or something) which were important for the atmosphere of those parts of the book, as indeed were the bits where he was talking about the Netherlands.
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Re: general reading and book related things

Post by islandhopper » Mon Feb 23, 2009 19:01

I honestly don't remember there being any Dutch in Netherland. It seems to be fairly common for authors to expect their readers to have a knowledge of French though. It's always come across to me as saying - if you're smart enough to read one of my oh-so-clever books then obviously you know French as well. I've come across it a few times anyway and that's been pretty annoying.

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Post by humblebee » Mon Feb 23, 2009 19:10

islandhopper wrote:I honestly don't remember there being any Dutch in Netherland. It seems to be fairly common for authors to expect their readers to have a knowledge of French though. It's always come across to me as saying - if you're smart enough to read one of my oh-so-clever books then obviously you know French as well. I've come across it a few times anyway and that's been pretty annoying.
Exactly that. About Dutch in Netherland, and French in general. Exactly.

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Post by Martijn » Mon Feb 23, 2009 19:34

Ha, that's funny that you don't remember the Dutch bits (small snippets of conversation when he describes his youth in The Hague), for I think they really helped me feel the atmosphere of his time in The Netherlands. But of course I did not have a hard time imagining a context for that atmosphere.

I find bit of French (or any foreign language) that you're supposed to understand also annoying, except for when I do understand it with my very limited knowledge of French: then it suddenly becomes a really important and well-chosen part of the book. But that's probably because I'm a snob.

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Post by crystalball » Mon Feb 23, 2009 20:22

Martijn wrote:Ha, that's funny that you don't remember the Dutch bits (small snippets of conversation when he describes his youth in The Hague), for I think they really helped me feel the atmosphere of his time in The Netherlands. But of course I did not have a hard time imagining a context for that atmosphere.
I've lent my copy to someone so I haven't got it handy to check but could it be that they weren't annoying because it 's relatively easy to decipher them if you're an English speaker?

Speaking of random bits of French sounding pretentious, I'm finding the use of multiple narratives on a page pretty pretentious as well in the novel I'm currently reading (Diary of a Bad Year by J M Coetzee) - and a bloody nightmare to follow. It'd better serve a good purpose.

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Re: general reading and book related things

Post by let it ride » Sun Mar 22, 2009 00:06

One of the best things about spring and summer is all that in the sun reading. That's my favourite kind. I never read more than when I'm at the archipelago house my family owns. It's perfect because there are no distractions. Everyone just spends time together reading... on the cliffs after swimming, up at the house, inside if it's raining, in the evening with a tea break. It's the cosiest thing ever.

In other randomly related book talk, my local library back in Stockholm has gotten a huge make-over! I've not yet been in, but from the outside all I saw was that they added a really lovely looking café - a lovely move I think as you couldn't bring anything to eat if you wanted to sit around and read in there before - and they have just made everything look lighter and more modern. I used to spend tons of time in there, ironically, for the the free internet usage as I didn't have internet at home when I was 16 - 17. For a small suburban library, they also had a fantastic CD section where I found Elliott Smith and Jesus & Mary Chain together with oldies and great classical music.
It's in a mall, but it still manages to fit in perfectly. I've always loved the place, and I'm glad to see it looks as friendly and inclusive as ever:
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Although it's of course Stadsbiblioteket in Stockholm City that takes your breath away:
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Re: general reading and book related things

Post by KingPanda » Sun Mar 22, 2009 21:46

Is that like a national library, or a the central public library in Stockholm? it looks beautiful.
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Post by let it ride » Sun Mar 22, 2009 22:39

It's the central public city library, and there are a few other buildings in the vicinity that belong to it. It is absolutely wonderful as you come up from below, so you climb up the stairs into this vast space.
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Re: general reading and book related things

Post by humblebee » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:41

Has anyone read Naïve. Super by Erlend Loe?

Amazon recommends it to me because I bought The Perks of Being a Wallflower and The International Gooseberry and it sounds quite nice.

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Re: general reading and book related things

Post by let it ride » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:49

Yes, I read it in Norwegian a couple of years ago and I really liked it! I know Anders absolutely loves Erlend Loe's stuff, in fact it was he who recommended his work to me.

Also, The Perks of Being a Wallflower is one of my favourite books ever! It's great.
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Post by humblebee » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:59

let it ride wrote:Yes, I read it in Norwegian a couple of years ago and I really liked it! I know Anders absolutely loves Erlend Loe's stuff, in fact it was he who recommended his work to me.
Thanks Astrid - I might give it a go then.
Also, The Perks of Being a Wallflower is one of my favourite books ever! It's great.
It's wonderful, isn't it? I loved every word.

These all seem to me to be books with a distinct appeal to indiepop fans. I wonder if it'd be interesting to debate a hypothetical Anorak reading list of some sort. (And exclude the prog fans from the debate, obviously.)

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