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Baking (bread and stuff)

Post by Sootyzilla » Wed Dec 26, 2007 14:55

Here's the bread thread!

For the last year, most of the bread I eat I've baked myself. It's pretty easy once you get into a routine of doing it. I even took fermenting dough to my mum's for Christmas and baked it there. Here it is:

Simple Christmas Sourdough

This will make a huge fuck-off loaf that would cost you at least £3 if you had to buy it from a fancy deli.

200g recently refreshed sourdough starter
(if you don't have a starter culture, make a sponge from 100g water, 100g flour and half a teaspoonful dried yeast, and wait for it to bubble)

400g white flour
200g light rye flour
200g spelt flour
18g salt
485g water

Mix the sponge with the rest of the ingredients and leave to rest for 20 minutes. Scrape it out of the bowl onto an oiled board and stretch and fold it a bit -- it should have lost the stickiness it had while mixing and become silkier. When it starts to stick again, scrape it back into the bowl and leave it to ferment for four hours or so (you can also take it on the train during this time).

By the end of this time it should be bubbly and show threads when you pull a lump off. Knead it again and shape it into the shape you want (or chuck it in a tin). Let it rise again -- mine took four hours, if you're using yeast it'll probably be quicker), then bake in a 200C oven for 20 minutes, then turn the oven down to 180C for a further 30 minutes.

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Post by indiehorse » Thu Dec 27, 2007 13:06

I can't bake bread. I don't think I do the kneeding right/for long enough.

I bought a bread making machine once, but I managed to break that after one loaf.

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Post by Jeezy Creezy » Thu Dec 27, 2007 13:29

Loads foodie stalls in San Francisco do clam chwder in sourdough bowls. That's right kids you eat the chowder then the bowl. They looked amazing and I was a bit a regretful I didn't eat meat and found the smell of clam chowder revolting.

I like making olive bread, sundried tomato bread is yummy and pumpkin seeds and honey is a pretty good combination also.

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Post by caramarydaisy » Thu Dec 27, 2007 13:29

tomato bread is the best stuff in the world ever. someone give me a good recipe?
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Post by Jeezy Creezy » Thu Dec 27, 2007 13:30

indiehorse wrote:I can't bake bread. I don't think I do the kneeding right/for long enough.

I bought a bread making machine once, but I managed to break that after one loaf.
Your not supposed to put the machine in the oven!!

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Post by Sootyzilla » Thu Dec 27, 2007 13:55

indiehorse wrote:I can't bake bread. I don't think I do the kneeding right/for long enough.
I hardly knead at all. I mix the flour and stuff until it comes together, then I leave the dough to develop by itself. Most of the changes that take place are the result of time, not kneading.

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Post by Jeezy Creezy » Thu Dec 27, 2007 15:21

caramarydaisy wrote:tomato bread is the best stuff in the world ever. someone give me a good recipe?
Try this one I nabbed from t'internet. Let me know how it works out.

http://www.agalinks.com/cookery_doc_761.htm

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Post by caramarydaisy » Thu Dec 27, 2007 16:16

Jeezy Creezy wrote:
caramarydaisy wrote:tomato bread is the best stuff in the world ever. someone give me a good recipe?
Try this one I nabbed from t'internet. Let me know how it works out.

http://www.agalinks.com/cookery_doc_761.htm
MMM i so want to go home and try that!!

(as if i dont have enough food in my flat already..)
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Post by Jeezy Creezy » Thu Dec 27, 2007 16:38

I just ate an entire baguette with marinated olives, using the bread to soak up the oil. My stomach feels like lead now. Oooh four olives left!

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Post by crystalball » Sun Dec 30, 2007 20:53

I did some cooking for the first time in about week today and baked a caramel shortcake (or millionaire's shortbread) which in fact looks like a giant biscuit covered in chocolate. It's quite nice.

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Post by Sootyzilla » Tue Jan 01, 2008 19:53

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Post by caramarydaisy » Tue Jan 01, 2008 20:07

my first attempt at baking bread was overall, a success i feel. it tastes really nice, but is pretty doughy cos i got impatient and didnt leave it to prove for long enough. still, im muchly enjoying eating it and am going to continue baking lots of bread for myself on a regular basis.

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Post by Jeezy Creezy » Thu Jan 03, 2008 22:09

What type of bread? I wanna give naan a try. Looks dead simple. I need to be making some pastry for my pal soon as well as they don't sell the frozen stuff here as ovens have just been introduced.

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Post by Sootyzilla » Sat Jan 05, 2008 13:49

Naan is simple, but you need a tandoori oven to cook it in. Your domestic oven doesn't get nearly hot enough, and doesn't have clay walls to slap the raw dough onto (you know it's cooked when it falls off again). You could make something tasty at home, but like pizza, it's never quite the same.

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Post by round bits of plastic » Sat Jan 05, 2008 15:26

chapati and paratha are both dead simple though, and you don't need a tandoori oven. score.

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Post by stolenwine » Sat Jan 05, 2008 16:02

you can also make a decent tandoori roti in a normal electric oven.

i'm gonna make some puris or bhaturas tonight. not quite baking but i'll still be kneading dough and stuff, so it's kind of close.

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Post by Sootyzilla » Sat Jan 05, 2008 16:38

I'm just pessimistic because the one and only time I tried to make naan at home they came out resembling scones.


There's a rather scary looking set of instructions on how to abuse a pressure cooker to simulate the tandoori oven here: http://luv2eathate2cook.wordpress.com/2 ... l-makhani/

You need a gas stove though, and I dare say oven gloves would be handy too.

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Post by lynsosaurus » Sat Jan 05, 2008 16:52

Heh, that looks awesome.

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Post by Jeezy Creezy » Sun Jan 06, 2008 00:48

Nah I saw an Indian lady guest on a cookery programme show how to make naan in an oven. In fact she showed a fireman how to make a curry for his entire troup and the naan was done in a regular oven and took a couple of minutes. f there is a will there's a way.

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Post by caramarydaisy » Mon Jan 07, 2008 09:17

i made the best bread on friday evening (fast becoming a weekly tradition) - it was courgette and chestnut mushroom bread, and totally amazing! i found the recipe online - it was so good i ate loads of it when i got home on saturday nite, so im going to bake some more this week :D
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