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Re: Tour de France 2008

Post by Concrete » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:23 pm

anders wrote:That was scary. That could've happened anywhere, really, and some other places there was nothing at the side of the road. I guess he was pretty lucky. It's crazy though, what they're doing. Driving downhill for some 25 kilometers, reaching speeds at over 100 km/h, with next to no protection.
We all know how much fun it is coming down hills though... I remember going over Shap summit last summer, and going up and up for ages with my full panniers and handlebar bag, feeling rather tired, then suddenly pelting down the other side. It was only about the third time on that trip I'd been able to use my 52-tooth chainring (they're unnecessary for touring, in case anyone's after advice), and I was pedalling most of the way down to see how fast I could get it. I managed over 40mph for a while, but it got a little scary once the road started to get twisty.

I keep watching that footage of the rider going off the road, but I can't work out how he managed to do it.

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Re: Tour de France 2008

Post by RITH » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:42 am

Finish at the top of Mt. Ventoux on the last day before Paris in the Tour 2009: I like that a lot. Despite myself I'm already getting excited about the tour again. Fool me once, twice or no matter how many times. I still want to believe this is the best sport ever, and a late finish like this will surely make it a good one to watch.

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Re: Tour de France 2008

Post by Jono Volpone » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:38 am

RITH wrote:Finish at the top of Mt. Ventoux on the last day before Paris in the Tour 2009: I like that a lot. Despite myself I'm already getting excited about the tour again. Fool me once, twice or no matter how many times. I still want to believe this is the best sport ever, and a late finish like this will surely make it a good one to watch.
Awesome! I'm hoping to go and watch a stage or two in France next year, and that location/date fits in so well with my other plans:-)
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Re: Tour de France 2008

Post by Your Funny Uncle » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:51 am

Oh cool! The top of Ventoux is such an awsome place. It looks like some kind of moonbase. I remember thet duel between Armstrong and Pantani there in 99. Brilliant.

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Re: Tour de France 2009

Post by RITH » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:33 pm

Start this Saturday. Can we still get excited and believe in it all? I bet I'll manage to fool myself once again.

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Re: Tour de France 2008

Post by mkgleeds » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:37 pm

Well i'll be excited - Cavendish having a real chance at winning the Green jersey definitely up's the ante a bit and waiting to see how good Armstrong is and if he really is going to work for Contador will be interesting.

As ever being in the Uk and not having Eurosport means i wont actually see much of it.

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Re: Tour de France 2009

Post by RITH » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:13 pm

I'm sure you can pick it up on the internet somewhere.

I'm looking forward to seeing how well Robert Gesink will do in his first Tour. It makes it nicer to watch if you're actually rooting for someone, and I don't really care, so why not pick the Dutch boy, right? He seems nice and he's been quite impressive. And yes, curious about Armstrong. Also, it seems to be an exciting route they're doing; not many days without any hills or mountains.
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Re: Tour de France 2008

Post by mkgleeds » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:20 pm

Well nowadays we have a few more Brits than in past years and Cavendish, Wiggins and Millar are all live candidates for stage wins. I think i read Barloworld didnt make it in this year so no Froome or Thomas. I think they have Soler as well, shame he's not riding.

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Re: Tour de France 2009

Post by Concrete » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:31 pm

RITH wrote:Start this Saturday. Can we still get excited and believe in it all? I bet I'll manage to fool myself once again.
I've pretty much come round to thinking that I like watching it anyway, regardless of whether some of them are cheating. And like the rest of you, I think the increased British interest this year is good.

I had a look at the route today - it looks brilliant. I don't have Eurosport either, but there's a fair bit on Channel 4 as well, isn't there?

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Re: Tour de France 2008

Post by Jono Volpone » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:50 pm

I'm finally going to see it this year, in the Alps:-) I'm going to see a road stage and the following day's time trial around Annecy. I'm taking my bike to do a bit of Alp riding as well. Can't wait!
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Post by mkgleeds » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:05 pm

Would be fun to be a fly on the wall in the Astana tema hotel tonight.
Don't suppose that Contador is going to be thrilled that half the team went off with Armstrong and appeared to be working to extend the break !

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Re: Tour de France 2009

Post by Concrete » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:21 pm

mkgleeds wrote:Would be fun to be a fly on the wall in the Astana tema hotel tonight.
Don't suppose that Contador is going to be thrilled that half the team went off with Armstrong and appeared to be working to extend the break !
It is a bit weird, but I reckon once they do the big mountain stages Contador will come through. How do team time trials work? Does everyone from the same team get the same time?

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Re: Tour de France 2009

Post by RITH » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:53 pm

Concrete wrote:How do team time trials work? Does everyone from the same team get the same time?
Everyone gets the time of the 5th person crossing the line, as far as I know.

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Re: Tour de France 2009

Post by mkgleeds » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:29 pm

RITH wrote:
Concrete wrote:How do team time trials work? Does everyone from the same team get the same time?
Everyone gets the time of the 5th person crossing the line, as far as I know.
I think that's right, unless a rider gets tailed off before the last kilometre, in which case his time gets recorded seperately. I think this happened when Zabriskie fell off in yellow a few years back. Can see Cavendish getting left behind by Columbia tomorrow, if they want to keep Rogers and Kirchen high up in the GC.

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Re: Tour de France 2008

Post by Your Funny Uncle » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:55 pm

mkgleeds wrote: As ever being in the Uk and not having Eurosport means i wont actually see much of it.
You can get the internet stream of eurosport for £3.99 a month. Not usually worth it but you could get it for this month and then cancel...

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Re: Tour de France 2009

Post by Jono Volpone » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:52 am

Or you can watch highlights 'live', or streamed later via ITV.com for free (though it hasn't been streaming very well for me).
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Post by mkgleeds » Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:40 am

Excellent - ITV seems to run fine on my PC after a couple of hiccups at the start and i may check out the Eurosport thing if i can arrange a couple of 'working at home' days when the big mountains are on.

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Re: Tour de France 2009

Post by RITH » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:45 pm

RITH wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing how well Robert Gesink will do in his first Tour. It makes it nicer to watch if you're actually rooting for someone.
Well, shouldn't have said that. He's out with a broken arm.
Crap.

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Re: Tour de France 2009

Post by Your Funny Uncle » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:08 am

Much as I love to see Cav romp home in a blaze of glory it's always cool when a breakaway makes it by a matter of metres....

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Re: Tour de France 2009

Post by Martijn » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:21 am

Yes! I couldn't find any live stream -- Dutch TV didn't let me watch it, even though I was using a Dutch proxy -- so I was listening the final kilometres on the Dutch radio. I wouldn't have bothered if it was going to be yet another bunch sprint.

As for Gesink, I had actually been thinking yesterday morning how this very scenario would probably be best for his career: having to pull out because of an injury and then trying to win the Vuelta later this year. I reckon he'll be a serious candidate for at least a top-three place there, whereas I have a feeling this Tour was going to be a disaster anyway, with the whole team in such a bad form.

So, yes, I do like cycling. It's one of the few sports that are real Sports, rather than mere games or competitions of seeing who is the best at this or that. Cycling, especially in Belgium, France and Italy, has a long history and is as closely connected to culture as football is here. Yes, I know quite a few of the riders are cheating, which isn't very nice I suppose, but then, spending all this energy on something so incredibly selfish (sports are, when performed at such a high level, very selfish) isn't nice either, yet I still enjoy following it. (It's a bit like reading a great book about something that really happened and then discovering it was all made up: it's a bit sad, but it doesn't make the book any less good, does it?)

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