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Re: The Football

Post by graysonscolumn » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:21

Aye. Doesn't help that we've got tomorrow's rearranged local derby with Rochdale to squeeze in before the Bradford match. Suspect they'll soften us up nicely for you, Leon!

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Re: The Football

Post by leon » Mon Mar 23, 2015 13:31

All you need to do is stay within 2 goals of us till injury time then we'll let you score, we're nice like that at home.
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Re: The Football

Post by humblebee » Tue Mar 24, 2015 22:14

Just won our game in hand. Conference Premier has started to look interesting...


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Post by humblebee » Sat Mar 28, 2015 17:18

ZOMG

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Re: The Football

Post by leon » Wed Apr 15, 2015 13:53

Looks like we might be getting our very own crackpot overseas owner. Whys must we always copy Leeds?

http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update ... ver-talks/
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Re: The Football

Post by humblebee » Wed Apr 15, 2015 13:56

leon wrote:Looks like we might be getting our very own crackpot overseas owner. Whys must we always copy Leeds?

http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update ... ver-talks/
Gah - just when it all seemed to be going right. I suppose you're an attractive target for these fuckers - big city club in the lower divisions and all that.


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Re: The Football

Post by leon » Wed Apr 15, 2015 16:36

I have mate. Not sure I'll be able to bring myself to read the book, but from what I read in the article and extract, it seems pure conjecture, completely circumstantial, and very difficult to believe.

Claims that because fires happened to businesses he owned, he deliberately started a fire in a wooden stand containing 3-4000 people (but he must have had an accomplice or more to actually do it). Claims that he arranged fro the gates at the back of the stand to be unlocked, yet no one could get out because they just thought they were locked. Claims that he did it to avoid having to pay £2m to improved the stand following promotion, when the steel was behind the stand and work due to start the following Monday.

I'm really not sure what Martin Fletcher thinks this will achieve except divide and upset lots of people. Stafford Heginbotham died years ago, this would be libellous if he was alive.

And that Guardian 'journalist' is an arrogant gobshite clickwhore of the worst kind.

I hope its not true, and I can't see how it can be. But, y'know, sigh.
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Re: The Football

Post by leon » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:27

As the witch hunt in the national media goes on about the Bradford Fire, I think its important that anyone interested in the story read this:

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ve/?ref=eb
"Our investigations led myself and Detective Sergeant Frank Vowden to a house in Bradford. We knocked on the door and an old man answered and said 'I've been waiting for you.'"
Poor old bugger.
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Re: The Football

Post by humblebee » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:09

leon wrote:As the witch hunt in the national media goes on about the Bradford Fire, I think its important that anyone interested in the story read this:

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ve/?ref=eb
"Our investigations led myself and Detective Sergeant Frank Vowden to a house in Bradford. We knocked on the door and an old man answered and said 'I've been waiting for you.'"
Poor old bugger.
Bloody hell, yeah. Imagine having to live with that.

It'd be daft to draw links too closely between different tragedies, but going by how people over here still react over Hillsborough I imagine there's still a lot of unresolved trauma around it. This week must have been tough in Bradford. I feel for you all.

I'll stop there. Sorry for the previous post and thanks for putting us right.

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Re: The Football

Post by leon » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:56

There's no need to apologise Pete but I appreciate the sentiment mate. The annoying thing is those (who it is nothing to do with) taking the word of this extract from an as yet unpublished book as gospel and then having a go at City fans who then try to put the alternative. Most upsetting though is Daniel Taylor in the Guardian who seems to be the driving force behind all this. Apparently he is a childhood friend of the author. He reacted with extreme arrogance when people objected to his earlier story that Martin Fletcher claimed the City directors profited from the fire. His view seems to be that only Martin Fletcher's opinion counts. Martin Fletcher seems, in the way he has gone about this, to feel that only he and his mum were affected by the fire. No doubt he was one of the worst affected, but he wasn't the only survivor or family to lose multiple loved ones. I was in the luckiest category of being neither injured nor having lost anyone I knew or loved. But it was still traumatic and will always stay with me.

Today Taylor has an interview with a City fan who claims "At last, the truth". The guy is notorious in Bradford with a semi hooligan past, and had a beef with Heginbotham in the 80s. He was banned from the ground at some points. Its no surprise that he has come out to say this.

But it all seems so academic when reading the story I've posted above. I doubt Taylor will be covering that though the shit.

One of the more horrible things is seeing images of the fire everywhere. I don't need to see a picture to remember what it looked like.

Sorry for going on about this Anorak. This just feels like a place where I can vent without having anyone have a pop. x
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Re: The Football

Post by leon » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:05

humblebee wrote: I imagine there's still a lot of unresolved trauma around it.
Actually, until now its always felt that we were at peace with it, as much as you can be. I can only speak for myself and my dad mainly, but its certainly the feeling I get from the wider City community. We knew it was an accident, that the club could have prevented but that could have happened at so many grounds at the time. The club admitted as much. We are all safer now because of the lessons that were learned. We have always come together to remember twice a year, at the last home game of the season and on 11th May at the memorial in town . We pause and reflect when we pass the memorial in town, or the sculpture on the back of the stand, or the plaque with 56 names on it by the club's main entrance.

This book has attempted to upset all that, weeks ahead of the 30th Anniversary. I hope we can get back to where we were, whatever the outcome of any calls for a further inquiry.
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Re: The Football

Post by Michael Quentin » Wed Apr 22, 2015 19:14

Leon, have you seen this eye-witness report about the fire? http://www.afinelung.com/?p=6776 Written by one of the board members at FC United. It's chilling.

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Re: The Football

Post by humblebee » Thu Apr 23, 2015 14:51

Well done FCUM on promotion to the Conference North. Are you celebrating, Michael? I expect you to be regularly beating GTFC within 18 months.

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Re: The Football

Post by Michael Quentin » Sun Apr 26, 2015 16:25

humblebee wrote:Well done FCUM on promotion to the Conference North. Are you celebrating, Michael? I expect you to be regularly beating GTFC within 18 months.
Thanks. The last few games were torture. Lots of new grounds to visit next season, as well as some old faces.

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Re: The Football

Post by humblebee » Fri May 01, 2015 10:10

Enjoying this video from our play-off first leg last night. Enjoying it because it doesn't show Eastleigh's goal and our hilariously bad defending which gave them it.

Seriously, these two from Nathan Arnold are lush. Give it a watch if you get a sec.



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Re: The Football

Post by a layer of chips » Fri May 01, 2015 10:14

humblebee wrote:Enjoying this video from our play-off first leg last night. Enjoying it because it doesn't show Eastleigh's goal and our hilariously bad defending which gave them it.

Seriously, these two from Nathan Arnold are lush. Give it a watch if you get a sec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM
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Re: The Football

Post by humblebee » Mon May 04, 2015 11:14

WEMBERLEEEEEY, WEMBERLEEEEEEEY

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Re: The Football

Post by richpassivity » Tue May 05, 2015 11:51

humblebee wrote:WEMBERLEEEEEY, WEMBERLEEEEEEEY

Sorry, still a bit emotional
Congratulations to Grimsby. Disappointed for my hometown team but definitely well-deserved.
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Re: The Football

Post by humblebee » Wed May 06, 2015 14:27

richpassivity wrote:Congratulations to Grimsby. Disappointed for my hometown team but definitely well-deserved.
Cheers. Was impressed by the Eastleigh fans. Great support for their team and generosity towards ours. Can't say I care much for the players and manager but support like that deserves rewards.

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