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Re: be random about science

Post by carney » Tue May 17, 2011 4:52 pm

Only if you have an appalling supervisor will you be allowed to take a viva that you shouldn't be able to get through. I was terrified before mine, but the 3 hours absolutely flew by. I dropped a massive scientific clanger really early on and still managed to pass.
Silver Girl wrote:There is no shame in saying "I don't know" if you're not getting one of their questions - just try and turn it around into a discussion point.
Yep, I did this. Bluffing will get you nowhere, and they're bound to ask the odd question that they expect that you won't be able to answer and are more interested in where you go with it.

I don't envy you, but as long as you know what went into your thesis and why it'll be fine in the end.

Good luck!

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Re: be random about science

Post by lynsosaurus » Tue May 17, 2011 6:25 pm

thanks for all the advice, anoraks. you're all ace. i have pretty much resigned myself to the fact that i am going to be sick with anxiety until it's all over and have reached that kind of equilibrium where i am still able to do some prep for it, while feeling sick. i keep kind of going off on panicked tangents, thinking "oh my god what if they expect me to know this in detail too?!" so i have to keep reminding myself that it is OKAY to not know everything. the methods stuff especially is a flipping nightmare because a lot of it is stuff i came to fairly late on in the thesis so while i understand how and why i can use certain techniques, i don't necessarily have as deep an understanding of some aspects as i do others and that being unsure is what gets me so anxious.

anyway, i am going to spend the rest of the time (tomorrow, basically) going over the lists i have made of chapter summaries, main findings, things i'd do differently, etc and making sure i have a vague idea what i am talking about there. i keep getting all wound up over not being able to remember specific data values and equations and stuff but then that's why i'm taking a copy of my thesis in, right? OOFT. i am not cut out for this academia business AT ALL.

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Re: be random about science

Post by lynsosaurus » Tue May 17, 2011 6:30 pm

also, i keep reminding myself of what all y'all are saying about people not failing. i have never known anyone to fail, not even the total slackers, and there is only one nebulous story of some guy that some guy knew who did his whole thing in a year and a half and then just rocked up to the viva without preparing at all. in fact, i only know one person who had only minor editorial corrections, everyone else has had a good whack of corrections or some rewriting to do. i'd settle for a rewrite of the weakest chapter (must remember not to concede that too early on, mind...) and some corrections on the rest. my supervisor keeps hammering home that i am in no danger of failing and that i should think of the viva as a way to get some of the critique out of the way before i submit any more papers. i have stuck post-its saying as much inside the front cover of my copy of the thesis...

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Re: be random about science

Post by Silver Girl » Thu May 19, 2011 10:02 am

Not sure if you've gone in yet, but GOOD LUCK LYNSO!
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Re: be random about science

Post by lynsosaurus » Thu May 19, 2011 7:33 pm

THAT'S DOCTOR LYNSO TO YOU!

hee! i wonder how long that will take to get old! it took about two and a half hours, and i passed with relatively minor corrections and additions (adding in some photos and figures, probably writing a few bits and bobs for one chapter). i cried a bit before i went in, managed to pretty much compose myself, and then as soon as i sat down they said they wanted to let me know that overall they were really happy with the thesis, and i burst into sobs. CLASSY. they were very gracious about it, mind you. after i composed myself again we just got on with it and the time really did fly by, it felt like about half an hour. i expected them to be a LOT harder on me about certain things, but then i guess that's because i have been looking at stuff critically for so long that it's become a massive deal to me. there are a few bits in the thesis that i feel were a bit 'hand waving', but my internal examiner was kind of talking for a bit about how that is really common in this type of research (basically looking for explanations for the regularity of patterns in natural landscapes) because sometimes there just IS no answer.

i am so happy it's over.

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Re: be random about science

Post by squirrelboutique » Thu May 19, 2011 7:43 pm

I've already congratulated you in several other places, so I'm just going to post this photo here.
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Re: be random about science

Post by squirrelboutique » Thu May 19, 2011 7:47 pm

I'm resisting using my admin powers to make that your avatar.

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Re: be random about science

Post by lynsosaurus » Thu May 19, 2011 7:50 pm

you have my permission.

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Re: be random about science

Post by Your Funny Uncle » Thu May 19, 2011 9:17 pm

Yay! congratulations! :-)

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Re: be random about science

Post by a layer of chips » Fri May 20, 2011 8:26 am

I know I've got bugger all qualifications, or nuffink, but even so - this makes my head hurt: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13452711

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Re: be random about science

Post by humblebee » Fri May 20, 2011 10:15 am

a layer of chips wrote:I know I've got bugger all qualifications, or nuffink, but even so - this makes my head hurt: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13452711
Woh!
"Amondawa people, like any other people, can talk about events and sequences of events," he told BBC News.

"What we don't find is a notion of time as being independent of the events which are occcuring; they don't have a notion of time which is something the events occur in."

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Re: be random about science

Post by Silver Girl » Fri May 20, 2011 2:15 pm

Your Funny Uncle wrote:Yay! congratulations! :-)
And from me too! 2 and half hours is the quickest that I've ever heard (beats my 2'45" record!) so well done! You've done really well. Hurrah! Have a great weekend

(p.s. I think that tribe are making it up. Not unheard of in anthropological circles...heh heh...)
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Re: be random about science

Post by Your Funny Uncle » Fri May 20, 2011 4:31 pm

a layer of chips wrote:I know I've got bugger all qualifications, or nuffink, but even so - this makes my head hurt: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13452711
It's pretty interesting, although possibly overstated as these articles often are. I don't see why it's strange that they have no word for a year or month. The Amazon is near the equator and hence there are no real seasons to speak of...

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Re: be random about science

Post by Big Nose » Fri May 20, 2011 5:52 pm

We have a Doctor now. Doctor Lynsosaurus. Massive congratulations on a massive achievement. This thread is a chronicle of how hard it is and how proud you should be.
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Re: be random about science

Post by julieocean » Sat May 21, 2011 11:11 am

[quote="lynsosaurus"]THAT'S DOCTOR LYNSO TO YOU!/quote]

That is such amazing news, I'm so pleased for you.

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Re: be random about science

Post by soft revolution » Sat May 21, 2011 3:49 pm

lynsosaurus wrote:THAT'S DOCTOR LYNSO TO YOU!
Yay, that's awesome news! Congratulations :)
And by me, I mean, Flexo.

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Re: be random about science

Post by tonieee » Tue May 28, 2013 2:23 pm

This is probably the most bonkers thing I've ever heard of:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_brain

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Re: be random about science

Post by crystalball » Tue May 28, 2013 2:52 pm

Not only is this amazing but it also reminded me of Descartes' dream argument which is the main premise of the Strawberry Soufflé episode of Sarah & Duck.

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Re: be random about science

Post by tonieee » Tue May 28, 2013 2:54 pm

crystalball wrote:Not only is this amazing but it also reminded me of Descartes' dream argument which is the main premise of the Strawberry Soufflé episode of Sarah & Duck.
I really need to watch Sarah & Duck don't I?

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Re: be random about science

Post by humblebee » Tue May 28, 2013 2:55 pm

tonieee wrote:This is probably the most bonkers thing I've ever heard of:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_brain
I don't think I get it. Mind you, I don't know what entropy is, so I've got no chance.
tonieee wrote:I really need to watch Sarah & Duck don't I?
That's more like my level!

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