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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by marksby » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:13 am

jayen_aitch wrote:So with that brand is the consensus that it's better to get the Big Muff or Little Big Muff rather than the Big Muff Bass, and run a bass through that?
The Big Muff and the Little Big Muff are both tremendous with bass, it's a versatile pedal. I spent ages (and too much money) trying to find the right bass drive pedal for me, I've finally settled on the Little Big Muff which is very close to the Big Muff sonically but much smaller and with a standard 9V socket in it's back, unlike the Big Muff and other full-size EH pedals which use a mini jack plug type. The Boss ODB-3 is ok, I have one of those too and it's actually pretty decent, however it can be quite harsh and crackly if you don't set it properly or if doesn't get along with your amp. I have no idea what the Bass Muff sounds like, but it seems a bit superfluous given how well the standard pedals work with bass. Avoid the Ashdown bass overdrive pedal like you would avoid an over-friendly puppy that had just rolled in it's own poo. It's not nice.

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by jayen_aitch » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:28 pm

Wow, time floats by at an alarming rate when using my new big muff - maybe it doesn't just distort sounds.

It arrived today and it's perfect so thanks all for the advice.

There's something almost unfathomably ace about stomping on a distortion pedal like this one while wearing slippers.

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by bocken » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:27 am

jayen_aitch wrote:There's something almost unfathomably ace about stomping on a distortion pedal like this one while wearing slippers.
I can never press those sorts of switches when wearing slippers, maybe the one on my Rat is just a bit old and heavy-action-y, but I find it really hurts my foot. Maybe you have more substantial slippers than mine.

I dreamt I found a load of pedals that I'd bought and then forgotten about last night. I'm pretty sure I haven't got a cache of crappy delays in my drawer, but it might be worth looking at later.

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by The Rocky Nest » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:09 pm

Is it always ok to make jokes about Big Muff pedals at band practice?
I found it incredibly hard to stop myself and so did the rest of the gang this week.
Is just soooooo satisfying.........am i a child?
Discuss.
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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by indiansummer » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:34 pm

The Rocky Nest wrote:Is it always ok to make jokes about Big Muff pedals at band practice?
I found it incredibly hard to stop myself and so did the rest of the gang this week.
Is just soooooo satisfying.........am i a child?
Discuss.
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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by The Rocky Nest » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:56 pm

indiansummer wrote:
The Rocky Nest wrote:Is it always ok to make jokes about Big Muff pedals at band practice?
I found it incredibly hard to stop myself and so did the rest of the gang this week.
Is just soooooo satisfying.........am i a child?
Discuss.
x
It is MANDATORY. Like wincing when someone says 'G string'.

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Long may it continue then!

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by James_B » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:25 pm

I'm after some advice on loop pedals. I want to be able to layer up guitar tracks live, and maybe play a synth through it too.
I've got a line 6 DL4, but that's really more for the delays, the loop function is really just a tacked on extra function.
The digitech jam man looks almost perfect, but it's slightly above my price range, I really don't want to spend more than £150 (if that, honestly) and a flash memory card isn't really something I need, though I could see how I'd make use of it.
The boss ones don't look particularly impressive and the only other one I've heard mentioned is the Akai headrush, a friend of mine had one a while ago and it didn't impress me all that much, but if it's cheap i might go for it.

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by jayen_aitch » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:33 am

What did you get in the end, and is it any good?

I've been researching a big purchase and thought I'd check to see if anyone knows much about the piece of kit I'm looking at. It's the Zoom B2.1u.

The background is that I was considering getting an acoustic bass, mainly for when we do acoustic gigs.

But then I thought it would cost a lot to get something decent, and I already have decent kit for less-acoustic stuff - so what if I got a pedal which includes a good acoustic effect, and also does many other things well - meaning a load more versatility.

After the wonderful advice you guys gave me over the Big Muff I thought I'd see what people thought of this one (I notice some people suggest it's not that hot on distortion, but being as I have the Big Muff too, that's not a massive worry for me.

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by James_B » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:58 pm

like most things i talk about buying i didn't get anything in the end... i think it would've been much more of a novelty thing anyway.

as for that zoom pedal, i'm not a massive fan of them, though i've never used that one in particular i've had a couple of older zoom multi effects a few years back and they sounded okay but not even close to as good as the real thing and they both ended up breaking after a couple of years.

do you really need a multi effects pedal?
you can get decent single pedals on ebay for fairly cheap and if you've already got a big muff you wouldn't need many... if you're after cheap ones, i'd recommend looking out for ibanez soundtank pedals, they're from the early 90s or so and a bit plasticy and cheap feeling, but sound great, i have the chorus and love it.

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by jayen_aitch » Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:08 am

I definitely get what you're saying... there were a range of features in that one I really liked, as I said firstly being able to get the acoustic sound amongst all the other ones, but also having a direct DI to the sound-desk even without my amp, and in terms of connecting to computers and recording things.

Less importantly there was also having my own stage tuner, because I always have to borrow my band mates' at the minute.

So in many ways it seemed ideal for me, and all the user-reviews I've read sounded positive, like zoom had stepped up and moved on lots since the previous models, but then it's hard to know who's writing those things, and how they compare to me.

I had one on order at a local music shop and I was going to go down and try it out with my bass (and ideally my amp too rather than them giving me the best one in the shop to play with and everything sounding ace until I got home), but I've had to put the plan on hold as now instead I'm going to have to replace my written-off car which I need for the holy trinity of work, social things and band things. So I guess once I've done that and the dust has settled I will take stock of my finances again and make a decision.

On the plus side it gives me more time to play around with alternatives such as yours, without just jumping in and making a rash decision and then getting the buyer's remorse in a big way.

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by Stew » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:10 pm

Loopstation is the industry standard and it does do cool stuff like backwards loops and that, but a good cheap option is to get an Akai Headrush. The looper is very straightforward. You get a decent amount of looping time and plenty of layers, but you can't fiddle about with them as you could in a fancier loop pedal. I like the limitations though. The danger with loop pedals is that you get stuck in a locked groove, which is fine if it's a good one, but can lead to the music being very stiff and linear. The Headrush also does a nice tape echo and a really useful tap delay. Got a nice slap echo thanks to the tap mode.

Got a couple of Beringhers and they're alright. They're plastic, sure, but who really stomps on their pedals hard enough to break em? Cheap and cheerful. A good way of checking out sounds before you upgrade to more expensive models. They do clones of virtually all the Boss pedals, including ones that have been out of production for years, like the Hyperfuzz. I picked up the Super Phase Shifter for a tenner SH and I love it. I'm sure a nice EH phaser or the Boss would be much better, but they're beyond my budget at the moment. It's great with fuzz for liquid psych leads or squelchy power chords, and clean it does a nice P-funk or disco rhythm sound, or a Saharan blues sound like Group Doueh or Tinariwen. It's fantastic for running cheap synths through - adds a bit of analogue squelch to my rubbish little Casio. Fun on vocals too.

I need to get a flanger next. Any recommendations? The tackier the better!

Cheap pedals are a joy, cos you can make your own sound out of them. Sometimes you find that they're rubbish at what they're mainly supposed to do (Much like the Roland 303) but they do other, weirder and more exciting things. I have a Chinese Daphon Analogue delay, which cost me all of £15 on ebay. Not the best of delays, but whack the feedback beyond 4 O'clock and it starts to self-oscillate like crazy. You can then just adjust the delay knob and it'll pitchshift. Perfect for cosmic freakouts.
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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by a layer of chips » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:55 pm

Stew wrote: I need to get a flanger next. Any recommendations? The tackier the better!

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by Rimbaud » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:56 pm

The Digitech Digidelay has pretty good looper mode on it too although it's only four seconds.

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by Rimbaud » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:05 am

Bought myself one of these:

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Can't wait to get weird.

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by jayen_aitch » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:17 am

Rimbaud wrote:Bought myself one of these:

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Can't wait to get weird.
Whoooaaaaa.... looks fun.

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by Rimbaud » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:14 pm

It is! Intensely.

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by indiansummer » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:32 pm

If there's an unfunny double entendre about flange, i've not heard it.
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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by Uncle Ants » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:04 pm

Behringers are made by oompa loompas in a slave mine on the South Pole, fed in a diet of axle grease and paid half a groat a decade ... if they don't die ... it's on your conscience.

Seriously though, I don't know about pedals - some of their PA and studio stuff is okay, lots for your money anyway. They have a reputation for being of variable reliability and for stealing other people's designs lock, stock and barrel.
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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by James_B » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:16 pm

If it's all you can afford their stuff does the job, but if you've got the cash it's always going to be better to go for the things they're ripping off...

I bought a homemade shredmaster clone off ebay the other day, it does what it's supposed to, but after years of wanting a real one but not wanting to spend silly money I feel a little let down by it... still good for when I want to piss off my flatmate by tuning to drop D and doing some shredding, which seems to happen strangely often lately...

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Re: A thread about pedals

Post by Rimbaud » Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:47 am

http://www.analoguehaven.com/midfielect ... psychbyke/

Bought this. Feel pretty bad about the amount I've spent lately even though I love it all.

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