STET this STAT: a grammar emergency thread!

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Re: STET this STAT: a grammar emergency thread!

Post by RITH » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:06 am

Thanks Colin, I changed it like that now. I don't know everything about the English language, but sometimes I just get this strong feeling I wrote something stupid.

Which doesn't always have a lot to do with grammar, you could argue.

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Post by Pardon My Rhythm » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:39 am

Oh! This is the thread I've been looking for. I have to send my brochure off for printing today. Would anyone mind giving my blurb a quick proof-read (my proof-readers are all lazy, close to childbirth or away from their computers)?

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Post by crystalball » Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:33 am

Gah, I'm sorry, I've only just seen this. Did you get anyone to help you, Trish? Hope it's all going well with the umbrellas.

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Post by humblebee » Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:33 am

I did it. The copy was really good though - there was hardly anything to do!

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Post by Pardon My Rhythm » Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:40 am

Your mistake spotting was spot on though, and has saved me a massive headache! Thanks Pete. Thete.

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Post by a layer of chips » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:15 am

Is it neither confirm nor deny, or neither confirm or deny?

Or doesn't it matter?

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Post by this clump of trees » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:21 am

neither/nor, either/or.

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Post by a layer of chips » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:25 am

Thanks!

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Re: STET this STAT: a grammar emergency thread!

Post by crystalball » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:39 pm

Anorak, should I be writing 'an historical' or 'a historical'? It sounds like a UK/US thing to me because of the pronounciation but I can't make a decision because I'm very, very tired.

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Post by humblebee » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:50 pm

crystalball wrote:Anorak, should I be writing 'an historical' or 'a historical'? It sounds like a UK/US thing to me because of the pronounciation but I can't make a decision because I'm very, very tired.
'A historical'. 'An' is pretentious and rubbish and has no justification at all.


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Re: STET this STAT: a grammar emergency thread!

Post by Sootyzilla » Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:56 pm

It's not so much pretentious as rather the result of the disproportionate influence of certain regional accents that drop their aitches, leading people to apply the a/an rule to they way they happen to pronounce it, rather than how it's spelt.
As wrong as it was to do,
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Re: STET this STAT: a grammar emergency thread!

Post by squirrelboutique » Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:59 pm

I can't think of anyone I know in the U.S. who would use an and not a, but I do understand how people would use an if they don't pronounce the h, just like with the word honor or honest.

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Post by humblebee » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:01 pm

Sootyzilla wrote:It's not so much pretentious as rather the result of the disproportionate influence of certain regional accents that drop their aitches, leading people to apply the a/an rule to they way they happen to pronounce it, rather than how it's spelt.
There's something weird with 'an historic' though, isn't there? People say that and still pronounce the h. I think it's a portentous TV journalist thing. Peter O'Hanrahahanrahan would have said 'an historic'.

I remember years ago hearing that you were supposed to say 'an hotel' as well. Pffff.

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Re: STET this STAT: a grammar emergency thread!

Post by humblebee » Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:48 pm

duffle or duffle?

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Post by crystalball » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:03 pm

Is that a trick question or did you make up your mind while typing?

I like calling it duffel because I think the name comes from Duffel in Belgium and I've been there so I'm feeling quite patriotic about other people's countries.

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Post by humblebee » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:07 pm

Oooops.

My towering stupidity can be quite funny sometimes, can't it?

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Re: STET this STAT: a grammar emergency thread!

Post by cuppie » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:45 am

squirrelboutique wrote:I can't think of anyone I know in the U.S. who would use an and not a, but I do understand how people would use an if they don't pronounce the h, just like with the word honor or honest.
What about Nancy Pelosi? If I have to hear her say 'an historic' one more time, well nothing except I will be slightly more annoyed than I was the last time she said it. But then you don't actually "know" her, I don't think.

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Post by philjunebride » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:00 pm

cuppie wrote:
What about Nancy Pelosi? If I have to hear her say 'an historic' one more time, well nothing except I will be slightly more annoyed than I was the last time she said it.
"An historic" is correct, surely? You wouldn't say "It's been a honour" would you? "An honour"..."an historic"...both right. Although, I admit, "an historic" does sound a little pompous...

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Re: STET this STAT: a grammar emergency thread!

Post by Mr Bear » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:06 pm

I think I might start saying 'an hotel'.

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