Non-portable TVs: flatscreen, digital, HD and all that

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Non-portable TVs: flatscreen, digital, HD and all that

Post by humblebee » Sun Dec 30, 2007 20:40

So. Anyone know about this stuff? What's the difference between LCD and plasma? What's HD and why are HD-ready tellies good? Why do some of them cost 200 quid more than others when they seem to have the same spec? Help me please!

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Post by Trev » Sun Dec 30, 2007 21:28

I don't know the answer - but a mate recommend this site to me - I've not got the cash to buy one - so I've not used it yet.

http://www.hdtvorg.co.uk/
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Post by humblebee » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:06

Cheers Trev.

As far as HD goes, then, I guess I just want to know how long it'll be until they do away with non-HD broadcasts. I'm not the slightest bit interested in spending 200 quid more on a HD telly for an improved image quality that I won't even notice, but I'll do it if the alternative is buying a telly that'll be unusable within two or three years.

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Post by caramarydaisy » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:27

what about all this digital lark - i now have a freeview box thing, but does that mean my old analogue tv will not work regardless when the changeover comes? and what about the tv card i have in my computer?
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Post by humblebee » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:33

caramarydaisy wrote:what about all this digital lark - i now have a freeview box thing, but does that mean my old analogue tv will not work regardless when the changeover comes? and what about the tv card i have in my computer?
Yeah, I've never got to the bottom of that either.

It looks from this very useful page like you'll be OK with the Freeview box. Dunno about the TV card though...

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Post by Contravene » Tue Jan 08, 2008 13:56

humblebee wrote:
caramarydaisy wrote:what about all this digital lark - i now have a freeview box thing, but does that mean my old analogue tv will not work regardless when the changeover comes? and what about the tv card i have in my computer?
Yeah, I've never got to the bottom of that either.

It looks from this very useful page like you'll be OK with the Freeview box. Dunno about the TV card though...
Yeah, essentially in a year or so they'll turn off the analog broadcasting, which means you'll only be able to get BBC1, BBC2, ITV, Channel4 and Five using yer freeview box. Yer analog TV will still work, it just won't be able to pick up TV channels on it own.

If you computer TV card is digital it'll be fine, if you got it in the last two years its probably digital.

Its going to be a long long time, if ever before they switch over all digital broadcasts to HD, cos HD is expensive to make and expensive to broadcast. What's more likely is that the price of HD tvs and screens comes down and regular definition tvs become obsolete.

Whilst I'm not 100% sure what the difference between LCD and plasma and the rest of the technology types is, what it comes down to is you decide how much you want to spend, you decide how big you want the picture to be, then you go and chose the telly with the picture quality you think is best. There are good LCDs and good plasmas and there are crap LCDs and crap plasmas out there.

I'd recommend getting a widescreen thing though.

Personally I think that HD tvs are over-rated, if you set up a non-HD TV properly it looks far better than a non-HD TV thats been set up badly. Just wander round Currys and you can see it. Check for the smear trail behind footballers when they're running, check for the smoothness of colours and whether you get that weird shimmery pattern aura between light and dark patches. This sort of thing is just the dealers not knowing how to set up the products properly and using crap cables.

For the 21st century mind, I recommend you get a TV with at least three SCART sockets on the back, so you can plug in yer DVD, Freeview and XBox at the same time.

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Post by humblebee » Tue Jan 08, 2008 14:24

I love the word 'scart'. It sounds like a mild insult by a Scouser.

Know what you mean about the picture quality you see in TV shops. They always seem to manage to set up those really massive tellies the worst of all, and I'm like "pfff, 1200 quid for that?"

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Post by Colin » Tue Jan 08, 2008 14:54

Contravene wrote:
humblebee wrote: Yeah, I've never got to the bottom of that either.

It looks from this very useful page like you'll be OK with the Freeview box. Dunno about the TV card though...
Yeah, essentially in a year or so they'll turn off the analog broadcasting, which means you'll only be able to get BBC1, BBC2, ITV, Channel4 and Five using yer freeview box.
I don't think that's right. Everything broadcast on Freeview is digital already, isn't it? The only difference is that when the analogue signal goes, you'll need a at least a Freeview box/built in Freeview to get anything. All existing Freeview channels will still work.

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Post by humblebee » Tue Jan 08, 2008 14:58

Colin wrote:
Contravene wrote:Yeah, essentially in a year or so they'll turn off the analog broadcasting, which means you'll only be able to get BBC1, BBC2, ITV, Channel4 and Five using yer freeview box.
I don't think that's right. Everything broadcast on Freeview is digital already, isn't it? The only difference is that when the analogue signal goes, you'll need a at least a Freeview box/built in Freeview to get anything. All existing Freeview channels will still work.
I thought Contravene meant that Freeview and digital would be the only way you can get BBC1, BBC2, ITV, C4 and 'Channel' Five, rather than that they would be the only channels you can get through Freeview.

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Post by Colin » Tue Jan 08, 2008 15:00

Aah, right. I thought he was saying you'll those channels are all you'd get with Freeview. Depends how you read the sentence.

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Post by Contravene » Tue Jan 08, 2008 15:18

Stupid english language, words go out wrongish

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