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Post by Concrete » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:00 pm

jayen_aitch wrote:I picked up my new n97 yesterday.
What's the N97? Apart from a road in France, obviously.

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Post by jayen_aitch » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:11 pm

It's the new phone from Nokia... it's nice. I'm glad I can now ring people I know using it.

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Post by islandhopper » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:15 pm

Friendster! Really?

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Post by Sootyzilla » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:25 pm

Have fun with your new phone, "Janet". ;)
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Post by jayen_aitch » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:22 pm

islandhopper wrote:Friendster! Really?
That's not an application I'll be using, but apparently it's an option.
Sootyzilla wrote:Have fun with your new phone, "Janet". ;)
Maybe I should've realised the capacity for mockery and been more fastidious in my Google image searching.

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Post by Gordon » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:00 pm

Can the phone use a google account as an address book intermediary?
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Post by jayen_aitch » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:28 pm

Mmmm. That's what I ended up doing in the end. I then imported stuff back to Thunderbird, into outlook and eventually onto my phone... got there in the end then.

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Post by Gordon » Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:51 pm

Ah, but I mean, it doesn't have a google-sync app on the phone at all?

I'm sure iSync will come around in the end...
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Post by jayen_aitch » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:09 am

Not being a regular gmail user.... I didn't look into that at all, But yes, apparently that is possible too.

I was just looking at this google latitude app, available for phones with gps... which shows your position, and the position of your friends using it on a map, so that when you have it switched on, you have yourself and your friends all lojacked.

I don't know how much use it would be in regular life, but I imagine it could work out well at indietracks.

Anyone else tried it?

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Post by Woodbine » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:06 pm

I've been looking at that phone - is there an option to text just using the screen, though, or do you have to use the keyboard and type it whilst holding the phone horizontally? I suppose you'd get used to it eventually but it kind of looks like it might be a pain in the arse.

Also, I'm confused about smart phones in general. My current phone goes online (albeit with fairly crap navigation) but of course it costs a bloody fortune as I'm not on any sort of web deal. I see that, for example, there is a deal for the N97 which says something like 500 MB daytime, but what does that mean? Or is the cost of the internet just included in the free minutes? Can anyone explain?

I fancied an iphone but all of the text deals for them are crap, and I'm more of a texter than a phoner, so I guess that's out.
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Post by Gordon » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:14 pm

Is it T-mobile that had the web n walk deal? That seemed quite good. I'm surprised iPhone have bad text rates.

Internet doesn't go over minutes, it connects separately and is just (in theory) billed by the megabyte.

I think I've got a 200mb (but probably literally higher) quota per month, so 500 mb/day would be craploads (although maybe day time means 500/month in daytime hours and different/unlimited in evenings? no idea.

I've got a blackberry 8900 and am very happy with it. I pay something stupid like £15/mo (unlimited texts, 60 free minutes, of which I use about 4) and £5/mo for the blackberry email/internet service. I'm a big calendar/contacts user, so the blackberry functionality is ideal. The phone was free as well, as I used to be on a £30/mo plan.
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Post by Gordon » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:16 pm

p.s. I'd be interested in knowing about those new Google OS phones. I'm not sure what I'll get next. I could hold out for a 4th gen iphone, but BlackBerry (proud to be Canadian) have done well for me, I have almost all the iphone functionality I want on my iPod touch, and I've got a feeling the iPhone would annoy me a little.
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Post by Woodbine » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:38 pm

Gordon wrote:Is it T-mobile that had the web n walk deal? That seemed quite good. I'm surprised iPhone have bad text rates.

Internet doesn't go over minutes, it connects separately and is just (in theory) billed by the megabyte.

I think I've got a 200mb (but probably literally higher) quota per month, so 500 mb/day would be craploads (although maybe day time means 500/month in daytime hours and different/unlimited in evenings? no idea.

I've got a blackberry 8900 and am very happy with it. I pay something stupid like £15/mo (unlimited texts, 60 free minutes, of which I use about 4) and £5/mo for the blackberry email/internet service. I'm a big calendar/contacts user, so the blackberry functionality is ideal. The phone was free as well, as I used to be on a £30/mo plan.
The most free texts I've seen on an iphone deal is 500 and that's about £73 a month. Pretty much all of them have unlimited internet though. Perhaps they assume you that if you have a smart phone you must communicate with everyone via Twitter or something. There's a £35 deal but you only get 125 free texts in a month which is shit, isn't it?

I think that 500 MB deal means in a month. The thing is, I'm in a bit of a quandry really because on the whole I can live without the internet and even perhaps relish the time away from it, and I definitely don't want to turn into one of those bores who sits there refreshing their phone every five seconds, but there are rare occasions when it would be really useful to have it and for it not to cost about 3 quid just to look at 2 pages. Hmm.
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Post by Gordon » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:45 pm

Well it shouldn't cost that much. Most non-3G phones use GPRS or EDGE (different network-types depending on availability) both these types bill by the megabyte, so presumably you could save money just by changing your plan. Older phones might just use the GSM network-type which I think charges by the minute-connected so could be more expensive. Not used a phone like that in years.

Any new phone with internet will give you the option of just not using the internet features... But if you are going to use them you'd probably like a halfway decent web-browser. If your phone supports java apps, you can download Opera-mini even if the phone's built in browser is crap. You can also get a nice gmail app, which makes downloading your emails faster and more efficient. If you care about things like contacts and calendar synchronisation you should check out that the phone can do them before you get it. I'd guess that any modern phone would be 'fine' for occasional internetting.
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Post by Woodbine » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:56 pm

Well I'm due a new phone anyway as my current contract deal ends at the beginning of August, so I can either get the phone upgraded or start again with someone else, so I'm just seeing what I can get really. I've had the one I'm currently on for about eighteen months and I seem to remember that when I got it the bloke told me that it charges per page. So basically even if you refresh the page you're on because you've put in a password or something that would count. It's also got GPRS on it which he pretty much told me not to use because it's prohibitively expensive, it all seems a bit silly really!

Some of the people I support at work are getting smart phones - it's actually a bit of a pain in the arse as I get no respite and get emails pinged at me even when they're not in the office. Still it's the future innit.
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Post by Carys » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:01 pm

Woodbine wrote:The most free texts I've seen on an iphone deal is 500 and that's about £73 a month. Pretty much all of them have unlimited internet though. Perhaps they assume you that if you have a smart phone you must communicate with everyone via Twitter or something. There's a £35 deal but you only get 125 free texts in a month which is shit, isn't it?
My iPhone tariff is £45 p/m and that has 500 texts, and the £35 tariff is 500 texts too... That includes unlimited internet too.

http://shop.o2.co.uk/update/paymonth.html

I have to say, I feel really de-skilled since I lost my iPhone. It's amazing how much I used really silly things like the maps, Around Me app and News apps on my travels. I know you can do all these without a phone, but I got so used to it. Now I feel perpetually lost.

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Post by Woodbine » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:29 pm

Excellent, must have missed that, I was just looking on the Carphone Warehouse site. Whether I go for it kind of depends on whether I can keep my number if I change to a different phone company though, as I can't be arsed changing it.
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Post by jayen_aitch » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:50 pm

Woodbine wrote:I've been looking at that phone - is there an option to text just using the screen, though, or do you have to use the keyboard and type it whilst holding the phone horizontally?
Yes, you can text normally and the number pad comes up on the screen, or you can pull out the keyboard, or you can write the letters with your finger... which is fast becoming my favourite way of writing very quick messages, took a bit of getting used to, but it works.

I'd still pull out the keyboard if I'm writing anything long.

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Post by Concrete » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:01 pm

jayen_aitch wrote: Yes, you can text normally and the number pad comes up on the screen, or you can pull out the keyboard, or you can write the letters with your finger... which is fast becoming my favourite way of writing very quick messages, took a bit of getting used to, but it works.
Gosh, it's like the 1990s and Palm Pilots all over again.

I think, Gina, there's a law that says you can take your number to a new service provider. As long as you've gone past the minimum length of your current contract there shouldn't be anything stopping you.

I might go back on a contract one day if I decide these internet phones are worth it, but I get less and less excited by technology as I get older. Ideally I'd like to get a decent signal in the places where I spend most time - that would be a proper technological breakthrough.

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Post by Carys » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:26 am

Woodbine wrote:Excellent, must have missed that, I was just looking on the Carphone Warehouse site. Whether I go for it kind of depends on whether I can keep my number if I change to a different phone company though, as I can't be arsed changing it.
Yeah, you definitely can keep your old number - you get a PAC code from your old network or something. I changed my number so I could 'accidentally' not tell some people my new number...

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