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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by humblebee » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:26 pm

OpenOffice is doing my head in now. I'd buy MS Office, but I only need it for Word and they make you pay for the whole package of Powerpoint and crap that I don't want, which means I'd be wasting me money.

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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by tonieee » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:59 am

humblebee wrote:OpenOffice is doing my head in now. I'd buy MS Office, but I only need it for Word and they make you pay for the whole package of Powerpoint and crap that I don't want, which means I'd be wasting me money.
Have you tried AbiWord? It's free and attempts to emulate (pre-2007) Word. It doesn't have some of the more advanced features of Word/Open Office but it should do for most documents. I use it rather than Open Office cos it's a lot quicker - especially on the eee. They also do a spreadsheet called Gnumeric.

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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by Gordon » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:37 am

I've got properly used to iWork, although I do keep OpenOffice.Org around for emergencies.

Has anyone tried Google Docs as a proper alternative for medium to low level documenting?
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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by Martijn » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:46 am

I have occasionally used it for spreadsheets. It works quite well, as long as you only want to do simple things and your connection is fast and reliable and it's quite useful if you want to create a spreadsheet that you might want to open at different locations without having to worry about having the latest copy all the time. Apart from that, t can't compete with offline spreadsheets though.

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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by Gordon » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:46 am

Google Gears/Firefox/Safari Offline support? Could be useful.
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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by Jangloid Mark » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:02 am

I dislike the very idea of 'Cloud computing'. **
I *can* see where it could be useful for work, but, for me, MY files belong on MY hard disk. Anything is hackable, either by deisgn or by mistake, plus, what if your connection goes tits up?

** = I may be a little less nervous about it were it not for the fact that it's Google doing it....
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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by Gordon » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:19 am

Your computer is eminently hackable... As are all my emails... Do you download all your emails to your main computer and take them off the net? It's not a bad idea security wise, but it's fairly inconvenient.
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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by islandhopper » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:21 am

They all mocked Adama though

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Post by Gordon » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:26 am

Is that another Gaelic dream-monster?
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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by Jangloid Mark » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:27 am

Gordon wrote:Your computer is eminently hackable... As are all my emails... Do you download all your emails to your main computer and take them off the net? It's not a bad idea security wise, but it's fairly inconvenient.
I actually do for a few, very personal ones....but, most (work, freecycle, notifications, political mailouts etc.) just get left once read....
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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by islandhopper » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:33 am

Gordon wrote:Is that another Gaelic dream-monster?
More of a dreamy Galactica Admiral.

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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by Jangloid Mark » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:43 am

Going off on a complete tangent...

A question about the monstrosity that is Outlook Express.
It's not even on my PC here, but, I have to use it in the warehouse at work...

When I OPEN an attachment (as opposed to 'SAVE'), is there any way that I can configure it to save it to My Documents rather than some buried 'Temp' file?
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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by tompony » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:02 am

You could use the 'SAVE' option instead of 'OPEN'?

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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by humblebee » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:30 am

tonieee wrote:
humblebee wrote:OpenOffice is doing my head in now. I'd buy MS Office, but I only need it for Word and they make you pay for the whole package of Powerpoint and crap that I don't want, which means I'd be wasting me money.
Have you tried AbiWord? It's free and attempts to emulate (pre-2007) Word. It doesn't have some of the more advanced features of Word/Open Office but it should do for most documents. I use it rather than Open Office cos it's a lot quicker - especially on the eee. They also do a spreadsheet called Gnumeric.
Oooh, I'll have a look. Ta for that. Did you find a pdf editor for the Eee, by the way?
Gordon wrote:Has anyone tried Google Docs as a proper alternative for medium to low level documenting?
When I've tried it I've found it really quite awful, so I only use it as a notepad type thing really.
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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by Gordon » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:31 am

tompony wrote:You could use the 'SAVE' option instead of 'OPEN'?
Or click the save button before you close the document.
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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by tonieee » Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:06 pm

humblebee wrote:Oooh, I'll have a look. Ta for that. Did you find a pdf editor for the Eee, by the way?
Yes. Did I not tell you about it? Sorry if I didn't. Pdfedit seems to work quite well. Unfortunately due to the stupid way that Asus have setup the Eee's package management system it won't install due to broken dependencies. I got it to work by downloading it and installing it manually. I'll have a look and pass on the instructions when I get chance - won't be tonight cos stupid work's phoned me up and making me do work tonight (even though I'm on holiday).

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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by tonieee » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:17 am

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humblebee wrote:Oooh, I'll have a look. Ta for that. Did you find a pdf editor for the Eee, by the way?
Yes. Did I not tell you about it? Sorry if I didn't. Pdfedit seems to work quite well. Unfortunately due to the stupid way that Asus have setup the Eee's package management system it won't install due to broken dependencies. I got it to work by downloading it and installing it manually. I'll have a look and pass on the instructions when I get chance - won't be tonight cos stupid work's phoned me up and making me do work tonight (even though I'm on holiday).
Download the following package:

http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/ma ... 1_i386.deb

Then open a terminal (ctrl+alt+T) and type the following command:

sudo dpkg --force-all -i /home/user/pdfedit_0.4.3-1_i386.deb

(replace the "/home/user" with the directory you downloaded it to if it's somewhere different).

You should get an error message about problems with a dependency on libqt3-mt - just ignore that.

There's probably a way to do the above from the gui but as I don't use it I don't know what it is - and it's usually easier to give command line instructions over the internet anyway...

To start it up just type pdfedit from the command line or you can add it to the menu in the way I told you before. When it starts up it's got lots of panes that make the document quite small in the eee's little screen but you can turn these off using the view menu - I don't know how useful they are but I'll guess you'll be able to work that out for yourself.

Let me know how you get on with it.

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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by humblebee » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:55 pm

tonieee wrote:Download the following package:

http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/ma ... 1_i386.deb

Then open a terminal (ctrl+alt+T) and type the following command:

sudo dpkg --force-all -i /home/user/pdfedit_0.4.3-1_i386.deb

(replace the "/home/user" with the directory you downloaded it to if it's somewhere different).

You should get an error message about problems with a dependency on libqt3-mt - just ignore that.

There's probably a way to do the above from the gui but as I don't use it I don't know what it is - and it's usually easier to give command line instructions over the internet anyway...

To start it up just type pdfedit from the command line or you can add it to the menu in the way I told you before. When it starts up it's got lots of panes that make the document quite small in the eee's little screen but you can turn these off using the view menu - I don't know how useful they are but I'll guess you'll be able to work that out for yourself.

Let me know how you get on with it.
Failed quite early on really. I've downloaded the thing but I can't get the terminal to recognise the directory I saved it in!

I like the Eee but I do find the operating system hard work. If you weren't around, tonieee, I'd probably have given up ages ago.

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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by tonieee » Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:34 am

Which directory have you saved it in?

The directory/filenames are case sensitive so make sure you've got the case correct.

Try putting quotes around the directory path - if it's got spaces in then unless you put quotes around it it'll take it as two separate parameters - e.g.:

sudo dpkg --force-all -i "/home/user/my directory/pdfedit_0.4.3-1_i386.deb"

Another thing you could try is using using auto-complete on the directory/file names. Type the first few characters of each directory and then press tab and the computer will fill in the rest - so for the example above type "/ho" and then tab, and then "us" and then "my" and tab and then "pdf" and then tab. Any special characters (e.g. spaces) will be preceded with a backslash so it'll look wrong but should be okay. That probably sounds more complicated than it is - it does make enterering file names a lot quicker.

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Re: Comput(bleth)er

Post by Jangloid Mark » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:41 am

Is anyone familiar with Dailymotion.com? It's a bit like Youtube.

I am having a teensy problem.
Having made a playlist, started it up and selected HD and fullscreen, it plays the first video fine, but, once the second video starts, it goes back to it's default settings. How do I keep my settings for the entire playlist?
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