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Raspberry Pi

Post by humblebee » Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:23 pm

Thinking of getting one of these for my child - anyone got one? Know much?

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by Tomb » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:27 pm

I have just upgraded to the latest model. I use it as xbmc using OpenElec server but will try out Squeezeplug in the near future. Not tried programming yet but that's not what I brought if for.

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by humblebee » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:42 pm

I was with you up to "latest model" :)

I don't really know anything about programming but the little 'un is interested in learning (and tbh I think he might have the right kind of mind). What's that Python language (anyone)? Or is there a different programming system for kids?

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by Tomb » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:49 pm

Ha ha - the B Model is now the B Plus with more memory and USB ports.

Yes it is Python. That is as much as I know!

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by tonieee » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:57 pm

Tomb wrote:Ha ha - the B Model is now the B Plus with more memory and USB ports.

Yes it is Python. That is as much as I know!
It's the same memory. And I think the same number of USB ports. They've improved the layout of the plugs, done some stuff with the power for USB to make it better, improved the sound quality of the analogue output and added lots more GPIO pins which are the bits for connecting to electronics. The latter means that it doesn't work with a lot of the existing plugins so if they're important to you get a B otherwise a B+ would be slightly better. They're going to keep selling them both for a while.

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by tonieee » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:08 pm

Language wise, it is aimed at Python but they also have Scratch where you drag and drop the language constructs which are shaped like jigsaw pieces to give you an indication of how they fit together. That's probably more suitable for Oliver to begin with.

Also there's Sonic Pi which I haven't tried yet but sounds really good. It's a programming environment for writing music aimed at teaching children to program.

Also there's Minecraft Pi which allows you to program Minecraft in Python which is really good if he's into Minecraft (and if he isn't yet, it's only a matter of time!).

There's loads of stuff on the internet for learning. Probably best to start with the Raspberry Pi website and the MagPi magazine.

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by tonieee » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:14 pm

Oh and I can give you a hand if you get stuck on ought.

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by Tomb » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:17 am

tonieee wrote:It's the same memory. And I think the same number of USB ports.
My original B Model is just 256 MB and 2 usb ports Toniee. Mind you the original A Model had one USB port and no ethernet socket!

Pete - PM me your address and you can have a beginners guide I have got.

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by humblebee » Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:02 am

Ah, this is great - thanks, you two! x

Yes he is well in to Minecraft now!

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by tonieee » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:56 pm

Tomb wrote:
tonieee wrote:It's the same memory. And I think the same number of USB ports.
My original B Model is just 256 MB and 2 usb ports Toniee. Mind you the original A Model had one USB port and no ethernet socket!

Pete - PM me your address and you can have a beginners guide I have got.
Mine too, they upgraded it shortly after they initially came out. All model B's and B+'s are 512 Mb now.

I never really got the point of the model A.

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by humblebee » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:54 pm

What do you use to power it then?

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by tonieee » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:07 pm

humblebee wrote:What do you use to power it then?
Micro USB charger, like in a mobile phone. Or you could buy a powered USB hub and power it from that. You may need one of them if you want to connect more than 2/3 USB devices or you want to use a device with it that requires more power e.g. USB hard drive.

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by tonieee » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:25 pm

Other things you'll need:

- SD card (B) or micro SD (B+) of at least 4GB to put the OS on

- HDMI or composite lead to connect to your TV. If it's the B then the composite is just a single composite to composite and you'll need a separate lead to connect the audio jack. If it's the B+ the composite and audio are combined in a single jack so you'll need a three way jack to composite. If your TV's HDMI then it's all in the HDMI cable, same for both.

- network cable or USB wireless dongle to connect to the internet (if going for the latter make sure it works with the Pi first as not all of them are compatible - most only support Windows)

- USB keyboard and mouse

- you may want a case to stop it getting damaged, there will be different ones for the B and B+ due to different layouts of the sockets

You can buy packs containing all the stuff you need but you've probably got half of it lying around so it might be cheaper not to get one of those. Maplin do the packs for about seventy quid I think but as far as I know it's only model B and you're probably better off getting a B+. They also do a very cute PI themed USB hub (made in Sheffield!).

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Post by paukl » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:10 pm

I got mine from Amazon. Came with a charger, Class 10 SD Card (pre-loaded with several choices of OS), a case and a charger.

It was about £35, certainly no more than £40.

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by humblebee » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:47 pm

Great stuff AGAIN, thankyou Anorak! x

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by tonieee » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:58 pm

Another thing: if you want to get a Pi on it's own the only two companies that are licensed to sell them are Element 14 and RS Components (unless this has changed recently). Everyone else sells bundles of one form or another. They're both linked from the Raspberry Pi website.

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by Tomb » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:42 pm

I popped into Maplin's yesterday (well the alternative was handbag shopping) and they have an impressive range of all things raspberry PI related.

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by humblebee » Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:52 am

Cheers Tom. Do you think it tends to be cheaper buying a kit than all the stuff separately?

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by Tomb » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:51 pm

I am not sure there is that much in it at the end of the day.

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Re: Raspberry Pi

Post by crystalball » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:42 pm

This Kano kit looks dead cute but then again I am shallow.

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