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Re: Which laptop?

Post by humblebee » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:19

This one on eBay is a Linux one. Maybe I could deal with that - I dunno. I reckon you'd lose a lot of the speed from them if they run Windows.

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Re: Which laptop?

Post by Gordon » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:20

It's the talk of battery life that worries me... I imagine the older models were windows compatible but you'd have to 'buy' the operating system separately.
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Re: Which laptop?

Post by tonieee » Mon Sep 01, 2008 13:18

The original 7" screen EEEs come with Linux on - you can put Windows one but I think it'll run really slowly (and you will need to buy a license if you want to be legal). The newer ones with the 9" screen come with the option of either Linux or Windows - they probably cost a bit more with Windows - and have better processor and memory and stuff. You can tell which one it is because the older ones have have black one inch border around the screen.

If you're just using it for common tasks like web browsing, email, word processing, listening to mp3s, etc then you probably won't even notice much difference between Linux and Windows.

Unfortunately Asus have put a locked down version of Xandros Linux on the EEE which makes it a bit difficult to add new applications initially without doing some configuration changes. There is a very good wiki with instructions on how to do it but I can help you with that anyway Pete. Once that's done you can add new applications easily, much easier than Windows. Stoo has got one and was a Linux virgin before but has managed to get it all reconfigured fine on his own.

If you have a choice I'd got for a bigger hard drive - mines a 4G one. I think they do them in 2 and 8 as well but a 2G one would fill up pretty quickly. There is a slot for an SD card though to expand the amount of storage space.

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Re: Which laptop?

Post by humblebee » Mon Sep 01, 2008 13:48

Thanks tonieee!

What do you reckon to this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0269098481" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Which laptop?

Post by Gordon » Mon Sep 01, 2008 14:05

Why Xandros, I wonder? Aren't most home-Linux users on Ubuntu?
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Re: Which laptop?

Post by tonieee » Mon Sep 01, 2008 14:56

humblebee wrote:Thanks tonieee!

What do you reckon to this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0269098481" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That's the same as mine (other than the colour) so I'd say go for it.

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Re: Which laptop?

Post by tonieee » Mon Sep 01, 2008 16:08

Gordon wrote:Why Xandros, I wonder? Aren't most home-Linux users on Ubuntu?
I'm not sure the reason behind it - my guess is they payed Xandros for support. Xandros is supposed to be an 'easier' version of Debian same as Ubuntu but has a more commercial focus I think.

Anyway what's there is a cut-down version of Xandros so the actual distribution probably doesn't make much of a difference. It uses IceWM instead of a full desktop like KDE or GNOME with a bespoke desktop launcher application with tabs and icons (which I really dislike and disabled straight away!). This allows it to boot up in seconds rather than minutes.

It's not too much of a problem to add the Debian repository so you can download extra applications but requires editing text configuration files which people always complain that makes Linux not suitable for non-hardcore users. Once you've done that though you can just use synaptic (or apt-get if you're a command line geek like me) to start adding extra stuff.

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Re: Which laptop?

Post by tonieee » Mon Sep 01, 2008 17:32

humblebee wrote:Thanks tonieee!

What do you reckon to this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0269098481" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Are you bidding on this Pete? If you are I thought you might want to be aware that you can get them in PC World for £179 now (mine was £219) as the auction price is not far from that - unless you particularly want it in black in which case it's £199!

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Re: Which laptop?

Post by humblebee » Tue Sep 02, 2008 09:49

tonieee wrote:Are you bidding on this Pete? If you are I thought you might want to be aware that you can get them in PC World for £179 now (mine was £219) as the auction price is not far from that - unless you particularly want it in black in which case it's £199!
I bid up to £120 on it - it went for 135 in the end. Ta for pointing that out - might as well pay the extra for a new one if that's all it is, eh?

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Re: Which laptop?

Post by Gordon » Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:50

Gonna go for Windows? What will you be using it for, Pete?

What's the trade off between solid-state and disc-based hard drives?
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Re: Which laptop?

Post by humblebee » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:23

Gordon wrote:Gonna go for Windows? What will you be using it for, Pete?
That one was Linux wasn't it? I thought I'd give Linux a go. I was thinking mostly just word processing, so I can do a bit of work and writing when I'm on the train. If I'm going to play a popshow in London or doing a little tour or something then it'd be a bit much to take this laptop with me guitar and a bag of clothes as well. But if I get one of those cute little baby ones, I could just stuff it in my rucksack! Could even use it on stage as well maybe, for samples and synth sounds, I guess, maybe, perhaps.

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Re: Which laptop?

Post by tonieee » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:48

If you're going to use it for playing back synths/samples then you'll probably need to buy an external USB sound card as I'm not sure the internal one would be of great quality. Although I have connected mine to my hi-fi to play back mp3s and it sounds okay.

I'd stick with Linux if you can because Windows runs a bit slower on it. Even a regular Linux desktop slows it down, so you're better using the more efficient one given. As long as you can cope with Open Office or AbiWord (I'd go with the latter as it's a bit quicker and closer to Word). If you're going to start using it for synths you've probably got a bit of learning to do to work out how to do that in Linux plus you may not be able to get the same synths as you've got in Windows.

I'm no expert in the hard drives but what I've heard is that the solid state ones are more expensive but are faster and use less power. They seem to work fine anyway. Also I've heard that flash memory has a limited number of writes when compared to hard drives. This is why you should never put a swap file on flash drive but you can't run Windows without one (as far as I know but I may be wrong) so this is another reason not to put Windows on it. Maybe that's on of the reasons why the newer ones (which have the option of coming pre-installed with Windows) have a hard drive in?

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Re: Which laptop?

Post by Jeezy Creezy » Thu Oct 16, 2008 13:20

I've been recommended Advent 4211, EEEPC and ACER Inspre. I want to take it travelling with me to keep in touch back home ans store tunes and videos. I'm on a budget of as little as possible.

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Re: Which laptop?

Post by Tomb » Thu Oct 16, 2008 14:05

I brought a Sony Vaio VGN-NR21Z. To be honest I haven't brought it for portable use - just for the house as the Mrs complained about the desktop PC . She loves it and sadly loves Vista even more..... It's a steady beast and the screen clarity is amazing. Much better than my flatscreen monitor. No problems with it so far.

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Re: Which laptop?

Post by Gordon » Thu Oct 16, 2008 15:48

Can I recommend a possibility for people mainly wanting wifi emails and web? iPod touch/iPhone. I'm pretty impressed with it as being more of a PDA with built-in mp3 player than an iPod. Also it can read word and PDF documents with the right app installed and it fits in the pocket...
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Re: Which laptop?

Post by Tomb » Thu Oct 16, 2008 16:03

Or this? Has anyone used one?

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Re: Which laptop?

Post by Trev » Sat Oct 18, 2008 18:28

Tomb wrote:Or this? Has anyone used one?
That looks like a nice little gadget.
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Re: Which laptop?

Post by Jeezy Creezy » Wed Oct 22, 2008 14:17

Gordon wrote:Can I recommend a possibility for people mainly wanting wifi emails and web? iPod touch/iPhone. I'm pretty impressed with it as being more of a PDA with built-in mp3 player than an iPod. Also it can read word and PDF documents with the right app installed and it fits in the pocket...
I was playing with the ipod touch. If only it had skype it would be a definate. My travelling companion is bringing a PSP 3000 so I might just save my dosh..
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Re: Which laptop?

Post by Gordon » Wed Oct 22, 2008 14:48

Hmm. The new headphones (that you need to buy seperately) have a working mic. I wonder if they would consider a skype app?

http://www.fring.com/fring_is/what_is_f ... /#downSub4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; has voicechat, and lets you use skype chat, but I'm not sure if it does voice over skype.
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Re: Which laptop?

Post by James_B » Thu Nov 13, 2008 18:54

I'm thinking of getting a 'netbook' of some kind.

is the eee the first choice in the £200 - £300 range?
I think I want one running linux, but can you dual boot them? If I can get it to run reason on XP it would be good for taking to gigs just for a bit of synth stuff.

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