Cars Can Be Nice

like, y'know, crafty stuff, exercise, walking, gardening...
Outcognito
Posts: 1024
Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:26 am
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/
Location: Smoke-on-Toast
Contact:

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by Outcognito » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:15 am

Just noticed tonight that the travelwagon has 198,000+ miles on the clock and am thinking of marking the 200,000 with some sort of in-car indiepop party.....will have to get the cassette fixed first though.
It's so easy when the door is wide open.

User avatar
stolenwine
Posts: 2071
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:27 pm
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/stolenwine/
Location: giddy london
Contact:

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by stolenwine » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:22 am

heee...in-car indiepop party sounds like such an ace idea!

i was thinking the other night when my parents were driving us from the airport, that i haven't driven a car in over 3 years! i wonder if i'd still remember how...
tell me how good it is / to wake from a bad dream / and have someone there and I will tell you / how butterfly wings stay dry in the rain
--
stolen wine social

User avatar
lynsosaurus
Posts: 3469
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:13 pm
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/
Location: Auld Reekie
Contact:

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by lynsosaurus » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:28 am

aw. i have fond memories of you driving a car, sandy! that week in toronto was one of the best EVER!

Outcognito
Posts: 1024
Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:26 am
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/
Location: Smoke-on-Toast
Contact:

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by Outcognito » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:34 am

stolenwine wrote:heee...in-car indiepop party sounds like such an ace idea!
Could be a bit of a squeeze in there - not much dancing room......
It's so easy when the door is wide open.

User avatar
Jono Volpone
Posts: 1112
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:36 am
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/Jono2cv
Location: Wirksworth

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by Jono Volpone » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:20 am

It may be too late, but don't accept the insurance company's first offer. Always argue for more - you'll usually at least some extra
The horses just don't gossip anymore

User avatar
jayen_aitch
Posts: 2660
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:54 am
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/jayen_aitch/
Location: sverige

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by jayen_aitch » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:49 pm

I argued with them a bit, but they weren't going to give me any more. They had a pretty strong case for it too.

Concrete
Posts: 1031
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:17 pm

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by Concrete » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:03 pm

jayen_aitch wrote:I argued with them a bit, but they weren't going to give me any more. They had a pretty strong case for it too.
Yes, to be fair to the insurers (and it's not often I try to be fair to insurers), I had a look on Auto Trader last week to see what you could get a replacement Polo for, and I reckon you're not far off its value with that payment. It's hard to work out exactly though, as it's quite rare to find cars that old for sale without high mileage. I reckon you could get something decent without spending many hundreds of pounds.

User avatar
jayen_aitch
Posts: 2660
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:54 am
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/jayen_aitch/
Location: sverige

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by jayen_aitch » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:14 pm

Well there's been a bit of a development... I've been offered an H-reg Peugeot which is in my family but that no-one particularly wants at the moment. There's some speculation over how long it might run, but it's got to be worth a go.

17-years-old, but only 37,000 on the clock. Might need the exhaust replacing though.

It has a choke, which'll be an adjustment.

User avatar
will
Posts: 145
Joined: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:33 pm
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/ottaker

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by will » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:43 pm

spotted this thing whilst in France - a Panhard PL17. i think i'd quite like one. i was going to say that the idea of a car without synchromesh scared me somewhat, but according to wikipedia it has synchromesh "on the upper three gears", which is okay... probably. :/

Image

Concrete
Posts: 1031
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:17 pm

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by Concrete » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:11 pm

will wrote:spotted this thing whilst in France - a Panhard PL17. i think i'd quite like one. i was going to say that the idea of a car without synchromesh scared me somewhat, but according to wikipedia it has synchromesh "on the upper three gears", which is okay... probably. :/
That looks lovely. As far as I know, having a synchromesh on the upper three gears only is pretty normal. You don't really need one for 1st gear since you only engage it when you're stationary. Or have I misunderstood that?

User avatar
jayen_aitch
Posts: 2660
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:54 am
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/jayen_aitch/
Location: sverige

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by jayen_aitch » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:23 pm

what does that do then?

Concrete
Posts: 1031
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:17 pm

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by Concrete » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:10 pm

jayen_aitch wrote:what does that do then?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchromes ... ansmission

Basically the gears can rotate freely, so they can lock into place more easily while the shaft is spinning. Cadillac invented them in 1928, apparently. Maybe we should have had a party this year to celebrate 80 years of synchromesh technology.

User avatar
Jono Volpone
Posts: 1112
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:36 am
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/Jono2cv
Location: Wirksworth

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by Jono Volpone » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:21 pm

will wrote:spotted this thing whilst in France - a Panhard PL17. i think i'd quite like one. i was going to say that the idea of a car without synchromesh scared me somewhat, but according to wikipedia it has synchromesh "on the upper three gears", which is okay... probably. :/

Image
A friend of mine has one of those, in Lincolnshire. A lack of syncro on 1st isn't a problem - 2cvs are the same. You do sometimes have to engage 1st on the move on hills (in a 2cv), so you just have to double-declutch to avoid crunching.
The horses just don't gossip anymore

User avatar
will
Posts: 145
Joined: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:33 pm
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/ottaker

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by will » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:28 pm

sounds complicated.
Concrete wrote:That looks lovely. As far as I know, having a synchromesh on the upper three gears only is pretty normal. You don't really need one for 1st gear since you only engage it when you're stationary. Or have I misunderstood that?
i dunno. does it work both ways? you'd want it to behave when you were going from first to second wouldn't you? i don't really understand it, which is probably why it scares me.

User avatar
Jono Volpone
Posts: 1112
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:36 am
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/Jono2cv
Location: Wirksworth

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by Jono Volpone » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:15 am

Basically, if you try to change from 2nd into 1st on the move without double-declutching it will crunch, which will gradually wear the teeth on those gears down. Double-declutching takes a little bit of practice, but it's easy once you've got the knack: -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_declutch
The horses just don't gossip anymore

bocken
Posts: 443
Joined: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:58 am
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/
Location: N8.
Contact:

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by bocken » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:02 am

I would've come in here saying manual gearboxes are for energetic fools and have no real purpose these days, especially living in a city, but I really wish I could've at least tried to bump start my car the other day (although what I'd do with 1.5 tons of dead Volvo when I got to the bottom of the hill if it hadn't started I don't know).

User avatar
will
Posts: 145
Joined: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:33 pm
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/ottaker

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by will » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:36 pm

Jono Volpone wrote:Basically, if you try to change from 2nd into 1st on the move without double-declutching it will crunch, which will gradually wear the teeth on those gears down. Double-declutching takes a little bit of practice, but it's easy once you've got the knack: -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_declutch
i see. thanks. i'll bear this in mind if i ever get a classic car. i feel a lot more optimistic about the whole thing. now all i need is some money.

Concrete
Posts: 1031
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:17 pm

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by Concrete » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:24 pm

bocken wrote:I would've come in here saying manual gearboxes are for energetic fools and have no real purpose these days, especially living in a city, but I really wish I could've at least tried to bump start my car the other day (although what I'd do with 1.5 tons of dead Volvo when I got to the bottom of the hill if it hadn't started I don't know).
I really don't like driving automatics. I find it a little disconcerting when it changes at a point where I wouldn't have done it myself. Perhaps you get used to that after a while though. It does start to get annoying though when you're stuck in London shifting between 1st and 2nd for 45 minutes, but I guess that doesn't happen to me much these days.

Can you replace the gearboxes in those Panhards with something more modern? A friend of mine used to drive a Fiat 500, but had the gearbox from a 126 put in so he didn't have to double-declutch. His Dad's a mechanic though, which helps.

User avatar
Jono Volpone
Posts: 1112
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:36 am
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/Jono2cv
Location: Wirksworth

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by Jono Volpone » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:54 am

Concrete wrote:
bocken wrote:
Can you replace the gearboxes in those Panhards with something more modern? A friend of mine used to drive a Fiat 500, but had the gearbox from a 126 put in so he didn't have to double-declutch. His Dad's a mechanic though, which helps.
I'm sure anything is possible with enough engineering skill. But why? Double-dechlutching's no chore, and if you're going to choose to drive a classic car why try to make it modern? Besides, unless you live somewhere really hilly you'll probably never have to change down into first whilst on the move anyway!
The horses just don't gossip anymore

User avatar
jayen_aitch
Posts: 2660
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:54 am
Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/jayen_aitch/
Location: sverige

Re: Cars Can Be Nice

Post by jayen_aitch » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:41 am

Oh no. My "new" car's exhaust pipe fell off. I'm not having much luck with cars.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest