Indietracks Clashfinder

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by mavit » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:28 pm

Clashfinder! This year including a train timetable again.

http://www.triv.org.uk/~mavit/clashfind ... /timetable

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by linus » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:08 pm

Respect is due to you

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by Barto » Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:02 pm

I don't know if this is the right topic to complain for clashes, but that The Very Most/Cosines/The Yearning/The Flatmates overlapping is terrible.

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by Quality Janitor » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:18 pm

Oh no, Spook School clashing with Joanna Gruesome !!!!

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by Barto » Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:43 pm

Quality Janitor wrote:Oh no, Spook School clashing with Joanna Gruesome !!!!
I saw them both very recently, they were both great performances, I think that splitting time between one to the other is a good idea. I'll try to get in the Church for Manhattan Love Suicide at that time.

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by steveninhucknall » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:27 am

Long time lurker. I posted a very few times when I lived in France under another user name, but now live in the Nottinghamshire area. I have attended the festival since 2008 and have discovered quite a few bands that would have been unknown to me otherwise. Almost every year I get frustrated by clashes and this year more than others, most glaringly for me by The Popguns overlapping with Dean Wareham.

The solution to this problem would be easily resolved by having fewer bands, but few I imagine would want this to occur. Team Indietracks spend ages putting together the bill and getting 85% of what you want is better than 100% of nothing; we can all live with the status quo. However with a few tweaks could clashes be minimised?

The following may be the case of the cure being worse than the cause by some or most, but after a back of the envelope job this is my attempt. I focussed on the two largest stages as the Church is so small that at any given time only 5% of the crowd can get in.

This line up necessitates starting one hour earlier and the first ten bands playing for 30 minutes instead of 40 minutes. During this period you would be able to see, on average, 2 bands play 2 half hour sets rather than a full 40 minutes on the outdoor stage and the first 20 minutes at the indoor stage.

2115-2215 Gruff Rhys 2000-2100 Dean Wareham
1910-1955 The Popguns 1820-1905 Joanna Gruesome
1740-1820 The Spook School 1700-1740 The Blue Minkies
1630-1700 The Yawns 1600-1630 Dorotea
1530-1600 Linda Guilala 1500-1530 ONSIND
1430-1500 Three AHs 1400-1430 MJ Hibbet
1330-1400 Royal Landscaping School 1300-1330 Wolf Girl
1230-1300 Skeletal Shakes 1200-1230 Ace City Races

Thoughts?

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by joanny » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:18 am

Barto wrote:
Quality Janitor wrote:Oh no, Spook School clashing with Joanna Gruesome !!!!
I saw them both very recently, they were both great performances, I think that splitting time between one to the other is a good idea. I'll try to get in the Church for Manhattan Love Suicide at that time.
Same for me, without a doubt. Even if there's a painful Manhattan Love Suicide / Blue Minkies clash *cries*

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by indiehorse » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:37 am

steveninhucknall wrote:This line up necessitates starting one hour earlier and the first ten bands playing for 30 minutes instead of 40 minutes. During this period you would be able to see, on average, 2 bands play 2 half hour sets rather than a full 40 minutes on the outdoor stage and the first 20 minutes at the indoor stage.
I'm not down with the logic of cutting set times in order to avoid clashes. Where's the advantage of seeing a band play thirty minutes of a thirty minute set compared to seeing a band play thirty minutes of a forty minute set?

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by humblebee » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:41 am

Is this the eighth Indietracks? Something like that. In all that time, anyway, I've never once been *really* bothered about a 'clash'. There've been times I've thought, oh, that's a shame, I won't see x because they overlap with y, but not *bothered* bothered.

This is just my perspective, of course. Maybe I'm lucky because I sometimes get to popshows just before or after Indietracks featuring some of the bands, so it's not such a big deal to miss them at the festival... or maybe being there among my people is as important to me as the music. I wouldn't dream of saying people shouldn't ever talk about this, or suggest things, as steveninhucknall has above. I'm not really bothered by that either. Absolutely discuss it, if you can do this while still appreciating the awesome efforts of the organisers - which just about everyone can, it seems.

But I would respectfully say no to Steven's suggestion cos I think it'd be a shame to bring bands to the festival from all over the country, and in many cases the world, and then only give them half an hour to play. Also if the music starts an hour earlier, is that perhaps demanding too much from Team Indietracks and the MRC volunteers? Let 'em have that extra hour in bed - they've earned it. :)

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by Trev » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:53 am

40+ minute sets are too long for me generally. Even 30 minutes is pushing it. If a band can't wow you in 15 minutes they're not up to much good, I reckon.

;-)

I get a bit miffed by clashes but have always shrugged my shoulders and carried on. But this year there is very little I actually want to see and nearly everything I do want to see clashes with something else I want to see. But that's just the way it is, no point trying to change it and whine about it.

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by Trev » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:55 am

Also - that church for The Manhattans is going to be bonkers. I've started queuing already.
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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by Barto » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:20 pm

I agree with indiehorse and humblebee. I complained for a clash too, but I didn't mean that I would like a lenghtier timeline or shorter sets to avoid them. Clashes exist, they are part of any festival.

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by tonieee » Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:05 pm

Complaining about clashes id part of the pre-indietracks fun. But it's easy to run between stages and see most of the bands anyway. And then on the day things get moved around so the clashes don't happen. And you're having such a good time with lovely people you forget why they were important.

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by tonieee » Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:09 pm

Also applies to worrying about the weather :-D

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by mavit » Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:14 pm

tonieee wrote:Also applies to worrying about the weather :-D
Hey, talking about the weather isn't the same as worrying about the weather. What would we talk about if we didn't talk about the weather?

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by MJHibbett » Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:16 pm

There are other bands playing?

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by mavit » Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:14 pm

There's my first pass at an Indietracks 2015 clashfinder at http://www.triv.org.uk/~mavit/clashfind ... /timetable. Workshops and train times to follow when announced.

Anyone know anything about campsite discos this year?

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

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Re: Indietracks Clashfinder

Post by mavit » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:18 pm

No website this year: the server had to be retired due to old age, and I haven't got around to sorting out a replacement. Here's a PDF for printing, though.

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