Everyone – This encompasses the first thirty replies, the sixty or so after that the last couple of days look completely meaningless at a quick scan, and even more miles from the original topic so I haven’t addressed them. Sorry.
A Layer of Chips – [Before Reading / Leeds] Good luck with your Reading: couldn’t afford Leeds ‘cause you blew your festivals budget on the beers at Indietracks? Enjoy jostling with the soul-less London set at that one… Guns N’ Roses, Blink 182, Paramore, Libertines: grim stuff - hope you are sticking to the minor stages this year… [After Reading / Leads] Only three stars in Guardian for Leeds? Oh dear, hope you managed to make QOTSA at least at your one.
Islandhopper - Sorry, I haven’t managed to reply to / continue with my earlier posting on breeders clogging up festivals; a bit new to posting and cannot find my original post, but I can say that after just having finished three weeks cycling and using trains around the UK I think I hate (screaming) toddlers, clueless parents and their other unsocialised carbon footprints even more. A case in point: at the Pooh Sticks gig, there was a bunch of placards being waved about during the set, obscuring the band and destroying the visual experience for the rest of us. Sometime later I was at a food stall and a sweet young family turned up, mum & dad and the push-chair, and the dad was carrying one of the offending placards. I asked why he had been waving it around during the performance and obscuring my sight-lines for the gig, and he said: ‘Oh I don’t know, someone just gave it to me at the start…’
Humblebee – Sorry indie pop angel is in the chorus, the title is – actually, whatever, find it if you want to.
Moopind – good analysis of the posting: you can go back to YouTube accident compilations now.
Caramarydaisy – ‘Civilian responses’ – just a way I guess to get any more knowledgeable or experienced disco-scene players or types or interested parties to stop & think before taking umbrage, and thinking about what the disco experiences were like for the average punter.
‘At the end of the day…’ Well sure, I’m not asking for the recording booth at Abbey Roads, or the current top club in Ibiza to be re-created in situ in the marquees, just that some effort is made to provide a decent disco experience. I mean, off the top of my head again, just thinking about it again, why not line the inside walls with throwaway but effective sound-proofing materials gotten from an office refurbishment or Freecycle or similar? Let people go wild painting it beforehand or even early part of the disco, and you get instant better sound quality plus a visual experience, etc etc.
Islandhopper – successful Kate Nash request? Good crowding out there of the disco time with a ditty you can hear at the hairdressers or HMV most weeks, thanks.
Tompony – irrelevant, and likely untrue: the sound on the main stage was fine and you’d have to be under the train to be disturbed by any of them gently puffing past. Try reading the post again: the point is that with a few simple, obvious tweaks & improvements the discos could be just so much more. Back to your Curate’s Egg life for you now.
Indiansummer – clueless: try reading the post again as well, and thinking about the disco experience and what it was like – if you were there of course.
Stolenwine – Yes I probably would have had a guilty dance to the Kate Nash request if it was played – out of desperation. If ‘One Thread to Rule Them’ gatekeeper wasn’t hovering about, I might start a thread on the lack of danceable numbers throughout the disco nights, come to think of it.
JamieC – That disco set is entirely constructible & doable at a budget festival: I bet I could put together a facsimile of it with say Freecycle and a little donated labour under a carpenter that could function as a dancefloor and ‘experience’.
Also, it’s ‘Finchley’ not ‘Finchely’, and ‘FinchleyTed’ not ‘Ted’: proof that you and just about everyone else here is charging in here emotively & defensively, and not reading let alone understanding the posting or the issues.
Sideburnsjim (sorry, ‘Jimothy’: hilarious) – ‘…do us all a favour and…’: Nice! - just the sort of knucklehead I went to Indietracks to try to avoid.
‘Now he’s hating on the disco’: we’re on an indiepop forum, not a creative Estuary English forum - try to use accepted parlance of the forum at least, when piling in emotively on these threads.
‘Why bother coming?’: I enjoyed the festival as such: Blanche Hudson Weekend, Shrag and …French Resistance… were fantastic for instance.
But again the point is that the discos could have been so much more, but failed on most points.
It is hugely depressing to see the lack of understanding and imagination in all these postings as to what I am suggesting could be done with the discos – and from an indiepop approach. No wonder everyone thinks the discos were actually quite cool and want the same next time.
Oh well, at least everyone’s in agreement that the Primitives set was a travesty of the original band & ideals, and that the organiser who booked them should be sacked – oh hang on, wait a minute…
Fogofideas – whew: where to start? The criticisms were posted separately because each one of them is potentially a ‘deal breaker’ re going to another Indietracks again. The discos could potentially take up ten or even fifteen hours of your time, so if they are going to be pretty average and/or disappointing, and you have gotten something out of the live music during the day, but want something more to really make the festival experience, then maybe the average punter should choose a different festival which has similar if not quite as good acts, but the discos are way way better.
The church ‘stage’ venue is also a potential deal breaker of an issue: all the acts with (big) queues for them should have been on one of the other stages and I for one wanted to see most of them, but would have had to stand around literally for hours trying to get in, at the loss of seeing a bunch of the other bands.
The patronising alcohol policy is potentially a key issue for me, and might be for plenty of others if they thought about it at all, and the toilets provision issue is also potentially a major issue, or would be if punters weren’t so conditioned to inadequate facilities year after year.
‘language, jimothy!’ – boy, what a cosy little forum this is – let’s all gang up on the interloper who had the temerity to think about his post before putting it on, and also made it longer than twenty words.
‘it’s more troubling if it’s for real’ – Also hugely depressing that a carefully thought-through (right or wrong) critique is dismissed with a few patronising words.
‘they always strive to improve year on year’ – a cliché: have you considered joining a cost-cutting team in the Coalition Government? How do you know they do anyway, or are you just defending your cosy little festival in a knee-jerk reaction to some objective criticisms?
‘there’s sorts of ways…’ Patronising about three times in the one sentence, well done there. Also largely meaningless: yes I can write directly to Indietracks, which is fine, but referring obscurely to some superior ‘sorts of ways’ avenue is a waste of forum time and effort for you and all of us.
Uncle Ants – It’s ‘FinchleyTed’ not ‘Ted’ – also unnecessarily patronising. Why is detailing criticisms and improvements of something I would dearly like to see improved so that I could enjoy it even more ‘having issues’ and being ‘quite plain’? Again, patronising and trite.
Everyone - are all the contributors here teenagers? It’s like trying to debate a topic in a school classroom where the subject is beyond the class and they just want to make fun of the speaker or react emotively, or gossip amongst themselves instead.