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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by aorta » Fri Nov 21, 2008 22:05

Jangloid Mark wrote:
Linz wrote:Is it available on any other cd's??? Sorry maybe I didn't explain myself very well - did they record it on any earlier album or ep if so which one?
Unfortunately not. The songs from that Peel Session (the last 4 tracks on CD1) were not recorded/released anywhere else :(
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Jangloid Mark » Fri Nov 21, 2008 22:12

aorta wrote:'Magic of a Kind Word' was played on Later With Jools Holland:

I didn't know about that....time for my PC to phono lead...

I actually came here to post that on Monday, I had a few Spectras, and listened to the new album....the live part twice :)
I was just a little bit tipsy afterwards, and have completely mis-filed the CD...and have no idea where I've filed it... :( I want to listen to it :(
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Linz » Fri Nov 21, 2008 22:34

Jangloid Mark wrote:
Linz wrote:Is it available on any other cd's??? Sorry maybe I didn't explain myself very well - did they record it on any earlier album or ep if so which one?
Unfortunately not. The songs from that Peel Session (the last 4 tracks on CD1) were not recorded/released anywhere else :(

What a shame - its a truly lovely track! - can't complain those least I have heard it now!

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Jangloid Mark » Fri Nov 21, 2008 23:49

Linz wrote:What a shame - its a truly lovely track! - can't complain those least I have heard it now!
I just read that you're not really a fan...I strongly recommend that you buy 'The Boy With The Arab Strap', then 'Fold Your Hands...'

If they do it for you, then get 'Push Barman To Open Old Wounds', then 'If You're Feeling Sinister', then 'Tigermilk'.

From what little I know of your taste, I'm recommending albums in the order that I think will get you as hooked as I am....personally, my favourite album changes constantly...
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Linz » Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:57

Thanks for the Tip, although Im not a fan I do kind of like them, maybe I brought the albums in the wrong order! I have the following albums

The Boy with the Arab strap
Dear Catastophe Waitress
If your feeling sinister
The Life pursuit

Maybe I should give some of the others a try. To be honest I brought them on the strength of the comparisons made between Camera Obscura and B & S but I've never really got the comparison, Im a big Camera Obscura fan. Although I have to say the B & S BBC sessions cd is fantastic especially the live section, and I have been revisiting my B & S collection and must say I am seeing them in a whole new light now!

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Sootyzilla » Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:40

Linz wrote: To be honest I brought them on the strength of the comparisons made between Camera Obscura and B & S but I've never really got the comparison, Im a big Camera Obscura fan. !

I've never understood that either. I think every Scottish indie band just automatically gets compared to B&S by lazy journalists. There's much more similarity between Cam Obs, California Snow Story and the Hermit Crabs, I think. Well, there used to be ... not quite so much now that Cam Obs sound like the Concretes used to sound, and Victoria Bergsman sounds like Cam Obs used to sound.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Linz » Sat Nov 22, 2008 14:48

Glad Im not the only one then - thought perhaps I was missing something! - althought in certain respects I can see the connections, think the reason I like Miraculous technique so much is its a bit Camera Obscura like!

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Gordon » Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:43

Sootyzilla wrote:
Linz wrote: To be honest I brought them on the strength of the comparisons made between Camera Obscura and B & S but I've never really got the comparison, Im a big Camera Obscura fan. !

I've never understood that either. I think every Scottish indie band just automatically gets compared to B&S by lazy journalists. There's much more similarity between Cam Obs, California Snow Story and the Hermit Crabs, I think. Well, there used to be ... not quite so much now that Cam Obs sound like the Concretes used to sound, and Victoria Bergsman sounds like Cam Obs used to sound.
Wasn't 80s fan, (when I first heard Camera Obscura) a bit Belle and Sebastian-like with its instrumentation? Didn't Stuart Murdoch have a hand in the production or something?
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by DimitraDaisy » Sun Nov 23, 2008 13:02

Gordon wrote:Wasn't 80s fan, (when I first heard Camera Obscura) a bit Belle and Sebastian-like with its instrumentation? Didn't Stuart Murdoch have a hand in the production or something?
He did do the production, yes, at least that's what I remember. He was also Traceyanne's boyfriend at the time. I think he did help with 'Biggest bluest hi-fi' too, in any case there's a song in it that says 'we've been getting some help from a very special band'. Or something along these lines. I'm too lazy to go and look it up just now. I think early Camera Obscura does sound like early-ish Belle and Sebastian, and it's quite obvious... but they went their separate ways after that.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Gordon » Sun Nov 23, 2008 18:37

DimitraDaisy wrote:
Gordon wrote:Wasn't 80s fan, (when I first heard Camera Obscura) a bit Belle and Sebastian-like with its instrumentation? Didn't Stuart Murdoch have a hand in the production or something?
He did do the production, yes, at least that's what I remember. He was also Traceyanne's boyfriend at the time. I think he did help with 'Biggest bluest hi-fi' too, in any case there's a song in it that says 'we've been getting some help from a very special band'. Or something along these lines. I'm too lazy to go and look it up just now. I think early Camera Obscura does sound like early-ish Belle and Sebastian, and it's quite obvious... but they went their separate ways after that.
And thank goodness for that.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Sootyzilla » Sun Nov 23, 2008 21:10

Gordon wrote: Wasn't 80s fan, (when I first heard Camera Obscura) a bit Belle and Sebastian-like with its instrumentation?
No. It does have the trademark Murdoch strings, but apart from that it doesn't sound like B&S at all.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Rimbaud » Mon Nov 24, 2008 00:35

Linz wrote:Thanks for the Tip, although Im not a fan I do kind of like them, maybe I brought the albums in the wrong order! I have the following albums

The Boy with the Arab strap
Dear Catastophe Waitress
If your feeling sinister
The Life pursuit

Maybe I should give some of the others a try. To be honest I brought them on the strength of the comparisons made between Camera Obscura and B & S but I've never really got the comparison, Im a big Camera Obscura fan. Although I have to say the B & S BBC sessions cd is fantastic especially the live section, and I have been revisiting my B & S collection and must say I am seeing them in a whole new light now!
You definitely need Tigermilk.

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Martijn » Mon Nov 24, 2008 08:40

DimitraDaisy wrote:I think early Camera Obscura does sound like early-ish Belle and Sebastian, and it's quite obvious... but they went their separate ways after that.
Also, Richard Colburn (B&S drummer) was in Camera Obscura when they recorded their first two singles. When I bought the Your Sound 7" by this band I had never heard of, but whose single looked pretty, it had a sticker saying "B&S side project" or something on it, which was probably what convinced me in the end. It then took me years to stop thinking of them as an B&S side project.

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Linz » Mon Nov 24, 2008 16:13

Rimbaud wrote:
Linz wrote:Thanks for the Tip, although Im not a fan I do kind of like them, maybe I brought the albums in the wrong order! I have the following albums

The Boy with the Arab strap
Dear Catastophe Waitress
If your feeling sinister
The Life pursuit

Maybe I should give some of the others a try. To be honest I brought them on the strength of the comparisons made between Camera Obscura and B & S but I've never really got the comparison, Im a big Camera Obscura fan. Although I have to say the B & S BBC sessions cd is fantastic especially the live section, and I have been revisiting my B & S collection and must say I am seeing them in a whole new light now!
You definitely need Tigermilk.
................will purchase myself a copy without delay - thanks!

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by indiansummer » Mon Nov 24, 2008 16:27

Jangloid Mark wrote:I strongly recommend that you buy 'The Boy With The Arab Strap', then 'Fold Your Hands...'
Arab Strap, yes. Fold Your Hands, no. Tigermilk and Sinister are the ones to get, i'd have said.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Rimbaud » Wed Nov 26, 2008 19:31

indiansummer wrote:
Jangloid Mark wrote:I strongly recommend that you buy 'The Boy With The Arab Strap', then 'Fold Your Hands...'
Arab Strap, yes. Fold Your Hands, no. Tigermilk and Sinister are the ones to get, i'd have said.
Lots of people dislike Fold Your Hands even the band I think, it has some bloody good songs on it though.

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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by Gordon » Sat Nov 29, 2008 14:17

Does anyone have a gif/jpg of the 'Live in Belfast' Football cover image?
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by shinelikeanewpin » Sat Nov 29, 2008 16:38

Rimbaud wrote:Lots of people dislike Fold Your Hands even the band I think, it has some bloody good songs on it though.
whatever the quality of some of the other songs, women's realm justifies the record by itself.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by postalblue » Thu Jan 08, 2009 09:43

shinelikeanewpin wrote:
Rimbaud wrote:Lots of people dislike Fold Your Hands even the band I think, it has some bloody good songs on it though.
whatever the quality of some of the other songs, women's realm justifies the record by itself.
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Re: Belle and Sebastian

Post by indiansummer » Thu Jan 08, 2009 09:53

postalblue wrote:
shinelikeanewpin wrote:whatever the quality of some of the other songs, women's realm justifies the record by itself.
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Hmmm... yeh, they're good songs. I Fought In A War is quite nice, and i've got time for Don't Leave The Light On Baby and The Wrong Girl too. I like that album a lot more now than when i first got it.

Nice Day For A Sulk, though, is absolutely horrible.
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