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Northern Soul

Post by Rocker » Thu Nov 20, 2008 15:03

Anyone else here into Northern? By which I guess I mean rare upbeat 60s US soul music (as played by middle-aged Brits on original 45s).

I got into it rather late, after reading a fantastic book, which I'd recommend to anyone not afraid of widening their musical horizons - "Last Night A DJ Saved My Life - The history of the disc jockey" by Bill Brewster & Frank Broughton. (Also covers House Music, Techno, Jamaican Soundsystems, 70s Disco & The New York Loft scene etc etc)

As an essential work of reference I'd recommend "The Northern Soul Top 500" by Kev Roberts.

I co-promote a monthly night in Bristol called "Getting Together" - http://www.myspace.com/gettingtogether

A few of my current faves (changes weekly!):

The Younghearts - "A Little Togetherness"
Epitome of Sound - "You Don't Love Me"
Darrell Banks - "I'm The One Who Really Loves You"
Father's Angels - "Bok To Bach"
Doris Troy - "I'll Do Anything"
Marvin Gaye - "This Love-Starved Heart Of Mine"
Vernon Garrett - "Turn Back The Hands Of Time"
The Fantastic Four - "Can't Stop Looking For My Baby"
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Re: Northern Soul

Post by kidfrostbite » Thu Nov 20, 2008 16:48

Yeah! I know there are some other soul boys and girls on this list. I can't afford to be into it from a collecting standpoint (almost all comps for me) but i love it just the same.
Some faves off the top of my head:

judy street - "what"
eddie holman - "hurt"
shirley ellis - "the nitty gritty"
sandi sheldon - "you're gonna make me love you"
mary love - "lay this burden down"
billy butler - "the right track"

i can second both book recommendations. check youtube for lots of vids of northern soul dancers, always boggles the mind.

keep the faith!

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by Rocker » Thu Nov 20, 2008 17:05

kidfrostbite wrote:I can't afford to be into it from a collecting standpoint (almost all comps for me) but i love it just the same
mike
And looking at the prices some of the early Sarah releases are now fetching, it does look like this is the way the C86 indiepop scene is going.

Mind you that's not all bad when you get 1700 people, many in their 50s, dancing 'til 6am at the Stoke Kings Hall all-nighter I went to in July! And this is 40 years after most of the records were released!
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Re: Northern Soul

Post by Linz » Thu Nov 20, 2008 23:05

Oh me, me, me - I love Northern - have since my teens!

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by Trev » Thu Nov 20, 2008 23:19

Rocker wrote:As an essential work of reference I'd recommend "The Northern Soul Top 500" by Kev Roberts.
I've got that. It's wonderful. I have no northern soul 45s though. Just a heap of cheapo compilations that have been doing the rounds these past few years. I don't know a lot about it, to be honest, but I do like a lot of what I have heard.
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Re: Northern Soul

Post by humblebee » Fri Nov 21, 2008 08:32

I used to go to northern soul nights when I lived in Birmingham. To begin with this was because there was fuck all else to do, but then I started really enjoying the music. The thing is, I've just never got anywhere near the same kick from listening to it at home.

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by kidfrostbite » Fri Nov 21, 2008 13:17

a couple of other books worth looking out for, maybe findable used on your side of the pond:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crowd-Story-Nor ... 953662616/

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Soul-Survivors- ... 861050534/

i've had both sitting on the shelf for ages -- haven't had time to read them, but both are stuffed with GREAT pictures.

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by Pop Kid » Fri Nov 21, 2008 13:46

I like a lot of Northern stuff - but like most I can't afford to buy the originals.

It's easy getting comps pretty cheap on CD and even the LP comps that came out on Kent are doing the rounds for about 7 quid and they're stuffed with amazing songs.

I must say, a lot of the lyrics make me laugh - someone belting out a song about building a brick wall or something. It's not a metaphor for something either, it's actually about a wall.

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by Linz » Fri Nov 21, 2008 16:49

Have any of you Northerns by any chance got a copy of the compilation "The Essential Northern Soul Vol 1", Im desperately trying to get hold of a track by The Inciters called "Since you left"????? which I understand appears on this album.

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by mark gibson » Fri Nov 21, 2008 20:03

I got into Northern Soul through a mate who used to have his 45's in box crates, drop acid and put them on at his flat very loud. I heard Darrell Banks Open the Door, followed by Little Anthony and I was hooked. On Northern Soul not the Acid. It's a wonder what obscure records were un earthed in that time, the memories come flooding back even now.

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by Rocker » Fri Nov 21, 2008 20:37

mark gibson wrote: I heard Darrell Banks Open the Door, followed by Little Anthony and I was hooked. On Northern Soul not the Acid. It's a wonder what obscure records were un earthed in that time, the memories come flooding back even now.
That's those Northern Flashbacks ;-)

"Open the doors to your heart" is fantastic - also got a great version by Doni Burdick - a mark of a classic Northern 45 it has a thumping intro that immediately drags you onto the dancefloor - & makes the record immediately recognisable too.

And Little Anthony's "Gonna Fix You Good" and "Better Use Your Head" are both fantastic - although I admit to thinking it was a girl singer until I heard it back-announced

Pete - while you're bigging up Stoke gigs, you should come along to one of the Kings Hall all-nighters - it's that big hall next door to The Glebe, looks out over the carpark by Sangams - as I say, 1700 and 80% dancing 'til 5 or 6am - many still doing the dances from those old movies of Wigan - in fact many of the same guys! (Or of course you're welcome to come down to my monthly Bristol night! There's also some talk of a night in Oldham one of the Dandelion guys may be putting on)

Anyone on my xmas list gets my annual compilation CD of my Northern vinyl purchases - if anyone bumps into me at an indie gig I sometimes carry a few spares too!
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Re: Northern Soul

Post by mark gibson » Fri Nov 21, 2008 21:04

Better use your Head that's what it was. I love his voice.

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by kidfrostbite » Sat Nov 22, 2008 23:11

Rocker wrote: Anyone on my xmas list gets my annual compilation CD of my Northern vinyl purchases - if anyone bumps into me at an indie gig I sometimes carry a few spares too!
how about a fellow listee who begs nicely?

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by Rocker » Sun Nov 23, 2008 00:43

kidfrostbite wrote:how about a fellow listee who begs nicely?
Better send me yr mailing address!

Not even started on this year's yet!

Still got to record my January show for Dandelion Radio, plus my bit of the 2008 Festive 50 yet!
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Re: Northern Soul

Post by BillyS » Sun Nov 23, 2008 14:04

off the top of my head:

Bobby Paris "I Walked Away"
Beverly Ann "You Got Your Mind On Other Things"
Terry Callier "Ordinary Joe"
Fascinations "Girls Are Out To Get You"
Irma Thomas "Long After Tonight Is All Over"
Four Seasons "The Night" (arguably the best song ever recorded)

All heard through CDs though. Can't afford highly collectable £100 7" singles!

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by Linz » Sun Nov 23, 2008 19:45

My all time fav track is Frankie & Johnny - I'll Hold you - it took me a while to get hold of it but happily have it now!

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by Rocker » Sun Nov 23, 2008 23:29

BillyS wrote:off the top of my head:

Bobby Paris "I Walked Away"
Beverly Ann "You Got Your Mind On Other Things"
Terry Callier "Ordinary Joe"
Fascinations "Girls Are Out To Get You"
Irma Thomas "Long After Tonight Is All Over"
Four Seasons "The Night" (arguably the best song ever recorded)

All heard through CDs though. Can't afford highly collectable £100 7" singles!
The Fascinations and the Four Seasons are both relatively cheap! I have those on vinyl, plus the Bobby Paris, which is quite expensive, but such a classic on the Northern scene! One of those 45s that's like a little opera in itself!

I am playing out this Saturday, think I'll dig those out!
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Re: Northern Soul

Post by BillyS » Mon Nov 24, 2008 01:27

"I Walked Away" is a truly beautiful tune, the sexual politics can be quibbled about, but the arrangement and vocal delivery are totally unquestionable! Utter genius.

Northern Soul, to be fair, has always had a slightly cliquey reputation which can put newcomers off. Which I understand in the original 70s context of people with no cash shelling out fortunes for tunes you wouldn't hear anywhere else. But you can't forget those trailblazers formed the basis of what appears on these £1.99 compilations which are so handy!

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by Soul Stylist » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:49

Linz wrote:Im desperately trying to get hold of a track by The Inciters called "Since you left"????? which I understand appears on this album.
It's also available on a re-issue 45 on Soul Galore, should be able to pick it up for a fiver, the original is on Baby Luv, goes for hundreds!

Here's a link with some more info:

http://www.soul-source.co.uk/forum/Inti ... t8230.html

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Re: Northern Soul

Post by Bovine Juice » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:59

Add me to the list. Got hardly any 7s but about 150 CD comps. Have stopped buying them now though cos too much duplication.

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