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Re: be random about science

Post by nanski » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:24

:)

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Re: be random about science

Post by crystalball » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:32

Hee!

If I make the spinach, bougainvillea and cactus quiche, could someone please bake a magnolia and nutmeg cake for afters?

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Re: be random about science

Post by lynsosaurus » Tue Aug 10, 2010 13:25

this is only vaguely related, but last night i had a dream that i was offered a job to go around the world collecting plants, and i was trying to explain that i was a geologist and not a botanist, but they were all "whatever, you can still have the job", and so i had to panic-learn loads of different species. it was a bit stressful.

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Re: be random about science

Post by nanski » Tue Aug 10, 2010 15:23

what if i bake a nutmeg cake and garnish it with a magnolia? that sounds a bit good, doesn't it.

the thing about plant taxonomy, lynsey, is that no one seems to agree. so you'll be safe if you're offered the job.
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Post by lynsosaurus » Tue Aug 10, 2010 15:35

so i should just assert myself and insist that my classification is correct? that's a relief.

when i woke up this morning my brain was still automatically listing all the chilean shrubs i know the names of.

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Re: be random about science

Post by lynsosaurus » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:27

i'm so excited today because i managed to get rid of some outliers in my data PURELY BY ACCIDENT! i had extracted this particular variable to use in an equation and in order to get it through publication i have to make sure my methods are robust enough to convince the reviewers and when i did a sensitivity analysis i couldn't even convince myself. so i tried this new method and i just plotted up the results, and they turned out pretty much the same except with no outliers (and with much smaller uncertainties). which proves that my methods are pretty robust AND that i am awesome.

this is probably of no interest to anyone but me, but i am so happy that i am going to treat myself to a posh lunch. yeah!

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Post by soft revolution » Fri Aug 13, 2010 14:18

lynsosaurus wrote:i'm so excited today because i managed to get rid of some outliers in my data PURELY BY ACCIDENT! i had extracted this particular variable to use in an equation and in order to get it through publication i have to make sure my methods are robust enough to convince the reviewers and when i did a sensitivity analysis i couldn't even convince myself. so i tried this new method and i just plotted up the results, and they turned out pretty much the same except with no outliers (and with much smaller uncertainties). which proves that my methods are pretty robust AND that i am awesome.

this is probably of no interest to anyone but me, but i am so happy that i am going to treat myself to a posh lunch. yeah!
Oh yay, go you! I love it when everything comes together... :)

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On a related thought, I used to think that publication bias was a bit of a red herring, but I'm finding it really hard at the moment to write up the things that I've done which have gone well - let alone anything that failed. I'm sure it'll get easier to write stuff up in future, it's just hard to get that first paper together.
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Post by lynsosaurus » Fri Aug 13, 2010 14:40

hah! my 'data analysis' folder looks remarkably similar to that one.

i'm struggling to write my first paper too. in one way, i'm lucky because i got such amazing results that the paper pretty much writes itself, but on the other hand that means i don't have a lot to say about it. i suppose it's a skill that we pick up over time, eh? my supervisor did warn me that i might find it difficult to switch from chapters to papers but i was adamant that i wanted to do that style of thesis. idiot. i'm pleased i get to end the week on a relative high though, because it sucks when friday goes badly and i am fretting about stuff all weekend.

hope you start making progress soon! and that's what supervisors and colleagues are for, eh? helping out. at least that's what i tell myself.

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Re: be random about science

Post by Silver Girl » Mon Aug 16, 2010 15:25

Do the figures first. Then you can write around them. That's how I've always done it.
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Re: be random about science

Post by nanski » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:06

we did the red cabbage litmus experiment with 20 kids this morning. it was really brilliant fun. DO try this at home!

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/ ... ge-litmus/
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Re: be random about science

Post by linus » Thu Aug 26, 2010 22:50

this possibly isn't the right thread for this, but I saw this quote from ann druyan about her late husband, carl sagan, and... I had to repost it someplace

like I say perhaps not the most fitting thread for this but, then again, maybe this is what we learn from science about love... and death... perhaps?
“When my husband died, because he was so famous and known for not being a believer, many people would come up to me- it still sometimes happens- and ask me if Carl changed at the end and converted to a belief in an afterlife.

They also frequently ask me if I think I will see him again.

Carl faced his death with unflagging courage and never sought refuge in illusions. The tragedy was that we knew we would never see each other again. I don’t ever expect to be reunited with Carl.

But, the great thing is that when we were together, for nearly twenty years, we lived with a vivid appreciation of how brief and precious life is. We never trivialized the meaning of death by pretending it was anything other than a final parting. Every single moment that we were alive and we were together was miraculous- not miraculous in the sense of inexplicable or supernatural. We knew we were beneficiaries of chance…

That pure chance could be so generous and so kind…

That we could find each other, as Carl wrote so beautifully in Cosmos, you know, in the vastness of space and the immensity of time…

That we could be together for twenty years. That is something which sustains me and it’s much more meaningful…

The way he treated me and the way I treated him, the way we took care of each other and our family, while he lived. That is so much more important than the idea I will see him someday. I don’t think I’ll ever see Carl again. But I saw him. We saw each other.

We found each other in the cosmos, and that was wonderful.”

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Post by lynsosaurus » Thu Aug 26, 2010 23:24

that is bloody wonderful, that. thanks for posting that andy. i have been working pretty solidly since 9am today trying to get some data sorted for tomorrow morning to submit a paper and was just about ready to give science a swift kick in the balls, but that has cheered me up immensely.

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Re: be random about science

Post by moopind » Mon Nov 29, 2010 19:46

Cheeky monkeys:



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Re: be random about science

Post by lynsosaurus » Mon May 16, 2011 13:39

i have already posted about this all over the internet, but i have my phd viva on thursday and i am FREAKING THE FUCK OUT. i'm already struggling to sleep properly and this morning brought my first day of anxiety-related vomiting. awesome! :(

any tips of preparation or ways to approach the viva, or even ways to talk myself out of this crazy anxiety, would be much appreciated. at this point i keep thinking i don't even care if i fail, just to get the damn thing out of the way, but i know that is just the FEAR talking.

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Re: be random about science

Post by Silver Girl » Mon May 16, 2011 17:10

Shhhh! It will be FINE. Honestly. Even if you're nervous, remember you wrote the thing, you spent 3+ years doing the work and you're the expert on your project. They're not trying to catch you out, they just want to make sure that you wrote it and that you've got half a clue what you were doing (and your supervisor wouldn't have let you get that far if s/he didn't think you had half a chance. Not worth the dent in any future funding if you fail cocker!). There is no shame in saying "I don't know" if you're not getting one of their questions - just try and turn it around into a discussion point.
Seriously, try and enjoy it - it's an adventure. And please try and get some sleep, you'll forget stuff if you're over-tired. Oh and finally, eat something, even if it's just a banana. Best of luck kiddo!
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Re: be random about science

Post by Your Funny Uncle » Mon May 16, 2011 18:06

I know it's not exactly the same but I had a panic attack the weekend before the last exam for my OU Language degree. I knew that how I did on the exam would determine if I got a 2:1 or a 2:2. There were other things that were worrying me at the time which contributed but it was mainly the exam stress I think. I found that just talking to people (wife, mum, friends, colleagues) about it helped, and although I was still really stressed on the day, I managed to get through the (written and oral) exams OK and got the 2:1.

So yeah, talk it through with people. Tell them the things that are worrying you most. Also deep slow breathing, stretching of my muscles to get rid of the stress feeling helped me to at least get some sleep. And yeah, I forced myself to eat stuff even though I wasn't really feeling hungry.

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Re: be random about science

Post by humblebee » Tue May 17, 2011 13:59

The tardigrade might be the first creature to have survived exposure to space, but that doesn't stop it looking like a monster from Dr Who in 1973.

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Also: TARDI-grade. TARDI-s. Coincidence? I don't think so.

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Re: be random about science

Post by islandhopper » Tue May 17, 2011 14:01

humblebee wrote:The tardigrade might be the first creature to have survived exposure to space, but that doesn't stop it looking like a monster from Dr Who in 1973.

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Also: TARDI-grade. TARDI-s. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Yeah, I saw that picture earlier and I still can't quite convince myself that that's a real creature. It looks like a kids stuffed toy gone wrong.

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Re: be random about science

Post by Colin » Tue May 17, 2011 14:17

I think it looks like an overstuffed Hoover bag.

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Re: be random about science

Post by julieocean » Tue May 17, 2011 14:31

lynsosaurus wrote:at this point i keep thinking i don't even care if i fail, just to get the damn thing out of the way, but i know that is just the FEAR talking.
I'm not quite at that stage yet, but everybody keeps reassuring me that hardly anyone fails now. I think it used to be possible in the days when your supervisor would shake you warmly by the hand on your first day and then send you away for three years, but Silver Girl's right and Universities are far too bothered about their reputation in the current cut-throat funding climate. You'd have been out years ago if you weren't going to make it!

My department's going through a bit of a bad patch at the minute with people not passing first time, but even so we haven't had any actual fails and in each case there was some kind of special circumstance. Most people I know have had minor corrections. As long as you keep your head and don't say anything monumentally dumb... I only mention it because that seems to be my own particular speciality (you should have been in my funding interview!).

I did my first degree as a mature student, so before I started I did an AS Level to get myself back in the groove. Before the exam I had the best anxiety dream ever - I dreamt that I'd turned up to sit the paper and they'd moved the location to the other side of the swimming pool, so we had to swim WITH OUR DESKS to the new exam hall. Only I didn't get the email to tell me this and I hadn't brought a swimming costume, which meant I had to borrow a really hideous one from lost property! It was utterly bizarre. I passed though and got an A. Which I guess goes to show that the more nervous you are the more bothered you are about it and the better you're likely to do. I'd worry if I wasn't nervous...

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