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Re: The Sarah Records thread

Post by a layer of chips » Sun Oct 07, 2012 20:31

Yorkshire's the place to look if you've got too much money and want to spend it on records, it seems.

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Post by humblebee » Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:36

That's looking good, that, innit?
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Re: The Sarah Records thread

Post by crystalball » Thu Jan 02, 2014 13:55

I still find it completely surreal that this film's happened. And amazing.

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Post by joanny » Thu Jan 02, 2014 14:58

This look awesome!


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Re: The Sarah Records thread

Post by richpassivity » Wed Jan 22, 2014 09:13

Both this book and the film are exciting!
One thing that we've known from the start
Deep down inside, we're punk rockers at heart

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Post by graysonscolumn » Wed Jan 22, 2014 17:26

2 x eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Big-screen showing of the film at Indietracks 2014 and merch tent sales of the book at Indietracks 2015, please. Yes?

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Re: The Sarah Records thread

Post by timahall » Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:51

Tickets booked! We're also going to (most of) the Odd Box Weekender that weekend too. It's going to be amazing!

http://www.arnolfini.org.uk/whatson/sarah-records

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Re: The Sarah Records thread

Post by teddy » Sat Mar 01, 2014 05:51

Being a 21-year old from America, I have no nostalgic sentiments associated with Sarah. However, I think what they did for independent and underground culture (much less, the indie-pop community) speaks volumes of their worth. There's a great number of excellent, smaller labels producing interesting bands, but it seems like Sarah held the larger community at hand. Please correct me if I'm just perceiving unfounded romanticized ideals from 20+ years ago.

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Post by Trev » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:32

(throws a grenade)

I was a fan of indiepop at the time (1986 through to the early 90s). I think Sarah released some good stuff but I don't even think I like most things they released. So for me aside from a few choice releases they past me by. But y'know for others they were the bees knees.

So in short they held nothing together for me. In fact they were around when I thought indiepop got very boring - and that wasn't down to them, at the time. I found a lot of what passed for indiepop in the early 90s fairly tepid.

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Post by RITH » Sat Mar 01, 2014 13:20

I wasn't actively listening to indiepop in those days yet, but I know most of the releases by now of course. Some of it is really good, a lot of it isn't. I'm quite happy to be living now, with so many good labels and bands around. If I'd had to choose between all the indiepop songs released between 1987 and 1995 or in the past eight years, it's not even a contest.

Still, it's hard not to admire the catalogue and the effort.

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Re: The Sarah Records thread

Post by malaise » Sat Mar 01, 2014 14:20

early 90s is probably my favorite era of indie pop.

anyway, how can I see the Sarah documentary?

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Post by timahall » Mon Mar 03, 2014 13:06

It's simply down to taste and I love pretty much everything Sarah put out, something I can't say about many (if any) other labels. I guess all that means is that Matt Haynes and Clare Wadd have/had very similar taste to me.

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Re: The Sarah Records thread

Post by humblebee » Mon Mar 03, 2014 13:08

RITH wrote:I wasn't actively listening to indiepop in those days yet, but I know most of the releases by now of course. Some of it is really good, a lot of it isn't. I'm quite happy to be living now, with so many good labels and bands around. If I'd had to choose between all the indiepop songs released between 1987 and 1995 or in the past eight years, it's not even a contest.

Still, it's hard not to admire the catalogue and the effort.
Well, yeah. I'm not sure that's a fair comparison, given the vastly different context. If it weren't for Sarah releasing those indiepop songs between 1987 and 1995, there might not have been any indiepop songs at all released in the past eight years.

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Re: The Sarah Records thread

Post by RITH » Mon Mar 03, 2014 15:14

Do you think? I really can't say much about that. I like Sarah, and I don't want to make this thread about minimizing their importance because I don't have a clue. I'm grateful for the two handfuls of songs that I love. But there was indiepop before, during and after Sarah that I love as well. I find it hard to believe (but again: no idea) that all current indiepop bands are a result of Sarah Records.

I'd really love to see that documentary, of course.

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Re: The Sarah Records thread

Post by Jay » Mon Mar 03, 2014 15:32

humblebee wrote: Well, yeah. I'm not sure that's a fair comparison, given the vastly different context. If it weren't for Sarah releasing those indiepop songs between 1987 and 1995, there might not have been any indiepop songs at all released in the past eight years.
Do you think that's true Pete? As you already know, one of my favourite singles ever is The Sweet Nothing's She's An Accountant. To me, that doesn't sound anything like anything that Sarah put out. It does, however, sound like it it would fit right in on my personal favourite indie pop label - Subway Organization, which I thought was much more fun and, for want of a better word, poppy, just like your record. Maybe you weren't talking about influence, rather how to set up and run a record label and to get such acts out there. I dunno. Nor do I know how much influence the way Sarah did things has on labels like Oddbox, Wee Pop, Fortuna Pop, Slumberland etc etc

I've not got anything against Sarah (well, maybe I do, but not nearly as much as I've got things for them and maybe any negativity boils down to the fact that their standing means it's impossible to buy their back catalogue without taking out a mortgage) I like a lot of their output, I'll be buying the book and hopefully seeing the film if it gets distribution, but I'm not sure we'd be devoid of indie pop records in the 21st century without them. Although, obviously, I don't know that with any degree of certainty.

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Re: The Sarah Records thread

Post by linus » Mon Mar 03, 2014 16:03

humblebee wrote:Well, yeah. I'm not sure that's a fair comparison, given the vastly different context. If it weren't for Sarah releasing those indiepop songs between 1987 and 1995, there might not have been any indiepop songs at all released in the past eight years.
Hmm... not sure about that, never too comfortable with hypotheses like that because we simply have no way of knowing and there could be an argument posited that there may have been better indiepop songs released...

Sarah meant a lot to me at it's inception, but my memory is I definitely felt like 'digging Sarah' was swimming against the tide at the time, everything the label held as a virtue others would hold against it and use to ridicule it, a lot of those virtues were deemed as anachronistic (7" singles in poly bags, giving a shit, etc), that Sarah was going backwards rather than forwards

I rather liked all that, so I got into Sarah big time, got my copy of 'Pristine Christine' on the day of release, eagerly anticipated every single thereafter (um, well up to about Sarah 30, then I seemed to just buy the Heavenly stuff... Crystalball sorted me out with what I'd been missing many years later), stick the inserts up on my wall and I'd send flowery missives and fivers to Clare and Matt at the Garden Flat and pace about until I got a reply and whatever I was waiting on

What I find really unsettling now is the huge reverence people have for the label, something I don't think Clare or Matt would have been comfortable with at the time (they may feel differently now), Sarah always seemed to me a means to an end, it was about the process as much as it was about the bands... I may be massively wrong... but, yeh, the reverence, that gets me down. There are loads of Tumblrs out there by da yoof all digging indiepop and none of them caring very much about indiepop after 'Tigermilk', for them Sarah seems to be the be all and end all, for me it's a part of the story not the whole story or the definitive story or the only story

But perhaps it was the end, the final word, perhaps we should all give up?

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