TV Quick: talk about things on telly succinctly

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Re: TV Quick: talk about things on telly succinctly

Post by linus » Sun Jul 12, 2015 23:46

I'm very much enjoying 'Humans', it reminds me of 'Utopia' and has a few parallels (beyond Neil Maskell being in both), I like how it's set sort of now but in a parallel reality and I like the awkward uncomfortableness of it (adult themes)... the cast is very good indeed, it's got lots of actors in it I really like (Maskell, but also Danny Webb, Katherine Parkinson, Rebecca Front, Paul Kaye) and lots of new (to me) actors who are all rather splendid... it looks lovely and sounds lovely too... I'm looking forward to each new episode... it's a hit, as far as I'm concerned, which probably means inevitably that very few people are watching and they'll be no plans for any further series

It's based on a Swedish TV show and I'd like to see that, so how they compare

I like the icyness of it and the aforementioned awkwardness, this and 'Not Safe For Work' are really good, when Channel 4 can be arsed they can apparently still turn out interesting fings, both programmes are rather better representations of Cameron's Britain than much else you'll find on Brit telly right now... not that that's saying much

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Post by noLooking » Sun Jul 12, 2015 23:56

Who's Paul Kaye then? As in Dennis Pennis Paul Kaye? I'd heard he was in it but I haven't had a chance to watch it since and figure out who he is.

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Re: TV Quick: talk about things on telly succinctly

Post by linus » Mon Jul 13, 2015 00:08

That Paul Kaye, yes, also seen recently in 'Game of Thrones', 'Inside No 9' and 'Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell', in 'Humans' he's a sort of synth bootlegger, wiping memories of presumably illegally purloined synths and then putting them back out on the market (semi to not at all legitimately), he's a bit of a rascal, he's not been in all the episodes

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Post by noLooking » Mon Jul 13, 2015 00:17

Ahhhhh, is he the kind of hairy one who got beat up? I didn't recognise him when he's not all scrubbed up and squeaky clean.

Didn't notice the guy out of 'Utopia' either til you mentioned him (the angry copper type?). They are a bit similar I suppose, though Humans isn't as stylish or violent, but certainly they've both got that same queasy, seedy unpleasantness about them. That being a good thing.

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Post by This Is Helena » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:26

I've found DVDs of the Swedish version but none with English subtitles. I'm really enjoying this show. I don't watch a lot of drama on TV but this has managed to hold my interest. The idea of where the line is between machines and humans is, for me, one of the most interesting because of the ethical questions it raises. (That sounded like a sentence in my head. Never mind)
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I'm intrigued by the character of Karen (the police synth) because she seems to be different from the other synths and no one else (so far) seems to know that she isn't human.
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Post by noLooking » Tue Jul 14, 2015 21:48

This Is Helena wrote:
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I'm intrigued by the character of Karen (the police synth) because she seems to be different from the other synths and no one else (so far) seems to know that she isn't human.
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Having watched this week's show now, it feels odd because you can see all the little synth ticks and mannerism about her, and now I'm wondering if they weren't there before and they're just playing them up now, or they were there a little bit and now they're exaggerating them to make it more obvious. Though I'm not quite so arsed as to go back and watch the other one's again. But I agree, she's one to watch.

And it continues to improve I think - the family clichés (sulky teenage girl, rocky marriage, etc) of the earlier programmes seem to have formed a base for a much more interesting exploration of the issues, being skewed by this odd dynamic with the robots who aren't "real" but kind of are.

Anyway, I thought it was a really good episode.

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Post by humblebee » Tue Jul 14, 2015 22:58

Yeah, lot of enthusiasm for Humans in our house too. Would love to see the Swedish one too!

The one out of the IT Crowd who plays the lawyer/mum, she's brilliant - excellent character, great performance. I like the performances of all the people playing the synths, cos they manage not to overdo it - and Rebecca Front is chillingly great, isn't she? (Only one I'm not really enjoying is the bloke cop, Pete - bit hammy, or a bit of a mismatch between actor and character, not sure, doesn't quite fall right though.)

The only reason I started watching Not Safe For Work is it's got Vod out of Fresh Meat in and she's amazing. I sort of expected to be turned off by that great 21st century amoral taint that characterises most of what Channel 4 does but it hasn't quite happened. I'm sort of liking it.

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Re: TV Quick: talk about things on telly succinctly

Post by linus » Tue Jul 14, 2015 23:38

I love Not Safe For Work (have I gone on about it here already? I can't remember, I've going on about it a lot to anyone who'll listen or even if they're just there and I can drone on in their general presence, whether they're listening or not). Zawe Ashton is magnificent and I love Sacha Dhawan as Danny, he's so fucked and broken. And I dig that he's Asian and that's the least integral thing about him, unlike so many representations of "Asians" on Telly who have to tick so many boxes so viewers can nod and say, 'ah, because he's Asian', things like family and religion and weighty issues about identity, that sort of shorthand that seems more like stereotyping, but Danny just wants to get off his face and get away with doing not very much work, or any... is that a smart bit of writing and telly making? I think it is, but tell me if I'm talking shite

The dude in it, the 'love interest', I thought he was a bit bland to begin with, he's getting more interesting, since he took up smoking again, he's still an entitled prick but then so am I so I can't hate him, I can feel a bit sad for him, feel like 'why don't you just wise up?', the questions I ask myself... and I recognise that he's a prick, essentially, but he's become a bit more three dimensional

In respect of Humans and the copper fella, I think I like that he grates a bit, he's very human in that he's all flaws and being a dick, compared to the synths his deficiencies are all too apparent, I think that's why I think Neil Maskell's quite good for the part because he seems to revel in roles where he plays characters who can be quite appalling, other actors would want to portray the character as sympathetic... I dunno... I'm watching an awful lot of telly at the moment...hopefully it's because there's a lot of good telly on, rather than I've become (more of a) couch potato and am thunking too hard about telly

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Re: TV Quick: talk about things on telly succinctly

Post by linus » Tue Jul 14, 2015 23:50

Looking at some photos online of the Swedish version, the synths look terrifying, proper synthetic looking, shiny (much more so than in the UK version)... yikes!

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Post by noLooking » Wed Jul 15, 2015 23:32

I'd avoided NSFW up until now because I couldn't be arsed to commit to two Channel 4 things at once and I always have serious reservations about anything calling itself comedy these days, but I just watched last night's episode and it's funny as fuck, the first thing on TV that's made me properly laugh for ages.

Danny is such a great character, so brilliantly, gloriously shambolic and useless, but with more than enough boyish charm and good luck to make him loveable rather than just a bit rubbish. Really looking forward to catching up with the rest now.

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Post by this clump of trees » Sat Jul 18, 2015 02:13

i want to see how that tv adaptation of "the man in the high castle" is

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Post by noLooking » Sat Jul 18, 2015 08:03

this clump of trees wrote:i want to see how that tv adaptation of "the man in the high castle" is
Yeah, me too, but I can't see me being arsed unless it comes on normal TV rather than pay per view. I've generally not been that impressed with P K D adaptations post Blade Runner.

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Post by Gordon » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:36

I'm going try out this Deutschland 83 thing. Anyone else tried it?
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Post by This Is Helena » Sun Jul 19, 2015 23:47

Maybe it's my age or my general emotional state but I was close to tears for quite a few moments during tonight's episode of Humans. A very good episode. Can't wait for the next.
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Re: TV Quick: talk about things on telly succinctly

Post by tonieee » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:57

This Is Helena wrote:Maybe it's my age or my general emotional state but I was close to tears for quite a few moments during tonight's episode of Humans. A very good episode. Can't wait for the next.
Arrgh! I completely forgot it was on. Watched some Star Trek TNG episodes on DVD instead. Thanks for reminding me - I'll watch on catch up tonight.

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Post by This Is Helena » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:05

Gordon wrote:I'm going try out this Deutschland 83 thing. Anyone else tried it?
I've not tried it but I looked it up after reading your post and I think I will give it a go.
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Post by noLooking » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:13

tonieee wrote:Arrgh! I completely forgot it was on. Watched some Star Trek TNG episodes on DVD instead. Thanks for reminding me - I'll watch on catch up tonight.
It's on TV again tonight on 4seven at 11, should you feel the desire (I always forget the Sunday one).

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Post by Gordon » Mon Jul 20, 2015 14:01

This Is Helena wrote:
Gordon wrote:I'm going try out this Deutschland 83 thing. Anyone else tried it?
I've not tried it but I looked it up after reading your post and I think I will give it a go.
Yeah, just saw it on Rotten Tomatoes. .
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Post by This Is Helena » Mon Jul 20, 2015 14:32

Gordon wrote:Yeah, just saw it on Rotten Tomatoes. .
I've just watched the first two episodes. I'd say it's worth a look.
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Re: TV Quick: talk about things on telly succinctly

Post by Gordon » Sat Aug 01, 2015 18:56

Watched the first one. Seems really good!
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